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Of the major Italian builders, where would you put each in regards to hierarchy?

Old 04-28-16, 11:53 PM
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Of the major Italian builders, where would you put each in regards to hierarchy?

Let me first give a disclaimer. I know each company has different levels of frames. It's not fair to say Alfa Romeo is better than Ferrari because you're comparing an Alfa 33 Stradale to a Ferrari Dino.

I understand that companies go through transitions. In this list, I'm referring to the companies in their prime/building bikes in Italy.

Everyone has their favorite company but if trying to remain objective as possible, how would you rate their hierarchy?
This can include overall history, pedigree, racing history, overall quality, etc..



For simplicity, you could just put your top 5 or top 10.


-Pinarello
-De Rosa
-Bianchi
-Colnago
-Cinelli
-Ciocc
-Masi
-Rossin
-Tommasini
-Guerciotti
-Basso
-Casati
-Pegoretti
-Scapin
-Benotto
-Moser
-Gios
-Olmo


I tried to keep it around 15....also pretty sure I made a brainfart and omitted a company that should be there. Feel free to add a company you feel more fitting.

This is out of curiosity and figured it would be fun.
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Old 04-29-16, 12:05 AM
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Grandis is the only one that's any good, the rest are all junk. Everybody knows this.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman View Post
Grandis is the only one that's any good, the rest are all junk. Everybody knows this.
De Rosa
Cinelli
Pinarello
Colnago
Masi
Tommasini
Ciocc

all the rest of 'em

BTW, I'll be happy to dispose of your "junk" 1986 De Rosa Professional for you. I'll even pay the shipping, because I firmly believe in keeping the environment clean and uncluttered.

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Old 04-29-16, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman View Post
Grandis is the only one that's any good, the rest are all junk. Everybody knows this.
Just saw your location/signature.
Any chance you're near Bothell, WA and give free test rides?
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List according to MSRP? Racing successes? Popularity? Or is it subject to the official BF panel of experts?
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I'll go with

Atala
Bianchi
Frejus
Gloria
Legnano
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Nope. Changed my mind.

Lygie
Doniselli
Stucchi
Viscontea
Maino
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Changed it again.

Wilier
Cimatti
Pecorari
Olympia
Taurus
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Who's the best?

Racing bicycle maker.
Guitar player.
Actor.

Under-garment maker....

How would I know?
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Crap. There I go again.

I'll just go with the blue ones.
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
Crap. There I go again.

I'll just go with the blue ones.
Nope...the red ones!
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Cipollini!

This thread brings to mind the old TV jingle - Noodle-roni fettuccine
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I've only owned eight high end Italian bicycles long enough to make a valid, relative assessment. The order is as follows:

Scapin
Marinoni
Pinarello
Olmo
Colnago
Cinelli
Legnano
Bottecchia

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Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman View Post
De Rosa
Cinelli
Pinarello
Colnago
Masi
Tommasini
Ciocc

all the rest of 'em
Based on OP's list, this looks about the way I see it as well. Depending on year and bike, Masi /Colnago could swap and the only change would be Guerciotti to replace Ciocc because I like the cutouts and panto, very technical reasoning. Then Gios and I have come across some nice Rossin and Scapin.

As my brother in law said when he looked at a couple italian bikes "mmmm...I can smell the marinara" .

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miyata
Ephgrave
ccm
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The Italian names are fun to say, if nothing else.
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Gelatto
Lasagne
Vito Scagagratti or something
Ferrari
Dante (particularly the Inferno model)

Hell, I dunno. I still haven't owned a Columbus frame.
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De Rosa, Colnago, and Cinelli led, the rest followed.













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Bianchi, Masi, Pogliaghi, Cinelli, Gloria, Umberto Dei, De Rosa, Colnago.
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My favorites are the ones I have ridden. What would be the basis for judging the others? Word of mouth?

I put lime in my beer because I've seen others do it. Therefore it must be the right thing to do.
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Tommasini was in a class of their own for consistent high quality frameset manufacturing.
Never had to put a frame on the flat table or fork in the jig for alignment.
BB was always faced w/ threads chased, head & fork properly faced/milled.
Chrome and paint both durable and very attractive.

Tommasini framesets performed like they looked: Beautiful


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