Papillionare Path Racer
05-16-16 | 08:13 PM
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George Krpan
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From: Westlake Village, California
Papillionare Path Racer
Lugged chromoly frame and fork. 5 colors, two sizes. $645 with optional 8 speed Nexus and leather saddle.
I emailed Papillionaire and they replied in less than 2 hours.
The top tube length is 600mm on the large size and the 8 speed hub spacing is 135mm, 3 speed hub spacing 120mm.
https://www.papillionaire.com/
I emailed Papillionaire and they replied in less than 2 hours.
The top tube length is 600mm on the large size and the 8 speed hub spacing is 135mm, 3 speed hub spacing 120mm.
https://www.papillionaire.com/
05-16-16 | 08:39 PM
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Bikes: '73 falcon sr, '76 grand record, '84 davidson
one can get a lot of bike for $650. and it can be well below 28 lbs.
there's a davidson for sale on my local craigs for $600. in several years, it will lose no value. with a refurb job, it should appreciate greatly.
but your new 28 lb bike will be worth half of what you paid.
there's a davidson for sale on my local craigs for $600. in several years, it will lose no value. with a refurb job, it should appreciate greatly.
but your new 28 lb bike will be worth half of what you paid.
05-16-16 | 09:29 PM
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But if one wants a new bike, that is a pretty one and reasonably priced.
05-16-16 | 09:45 PM
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Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.
That's pretty cool, and lugged, too. Brooklyn, NY company, but not touting "Made in America" so, probably Taiwan or Malaysia? Where does Linus get its frames? Although I think Linus' are mostly TIG welded. The two websites and products are so similar it almost makes me think they are the same company.
I like the looks, and the practical gearing choices. But Bill is right, not for the C&V snob intelligentsia. More for newbs who want a hassle-free new bike that looks old and classic.
I like the looks, and the practical gearing choices. But Bill is right, not for the C&V snob intelligentsia. More for newbs who want a hassle-free new bike that looks old and classic.
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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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05-16-16 | 10:11 PM
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Lugged chromoly frame and fork. 5 colors, two sizes. $645 with optional 8 speed Nexus and leather saddle.
I emailed Papillionaire and they replied in less than 2 hours.
The top tube length is 600mm on the large size and the 8 speed hub spacing is 135mm, 3 speed hub spacing 120mm.
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I emailed Papillionaire and they replied in less than 2 hours.
The top tube length is 600mm on the large size and the 8 speed hub spacing is 135mm, 3 speed hub spacing 120mm.
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05-16-16 | 10:34 PM
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If I wanted to spend that much on a new classic looking bike, I'd rather have this (preferably the B variant): Detroit Bikes » The Bikes
05-16-16 | 10:52 PM
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George Krpan
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The reason I like the Papillionare is that I'd like to do some classic cycling events but I don't want to do the usual 50/60/70/80s road racer schtick. I want to go back further.
05-16-16 | 11:44 PM
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I just want to know if a papillionaire is richer than a gazillionaire.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
05-17-16 | 06:53 AM
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Well, except for our 6th Grade substitute teacher.....mini skirt, sweater, bleach blonde
That was better.
05-17-16 | 08:37 AM
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From: Westlake Village, California
05-17-16 | 08:39 AM
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...are clearly mounted on both bikes in the olde-timey picture. 
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
05-17-16 | 09:14 AM
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Well I don't like fake custom bikes myself. They say there bikes are custom and they only offer a couple of fits all frame sizes? I would consider sizing about the most important aspect of a semi custom built to order bike.
05-17-16 | 09:20 AM
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Now that is a cool bike.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
05-17-16 | 09:21 AM
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05-17-16 | 09:36 AM
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They have a store in Brooklyn. I was actually planning on passing by to check it out next week, not for a bike though possibly the sprung saddle. What do you guys think of that saddle's potential quality? Nice looking bikes though.
05-17-16 | 10:10 AM
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George Krpan
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I emailed Papillionaire to get the top tube length of the large size. 600mm is perfect for me, 6"0", with that type of bar.
05-17-16 | 10:14 AM
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George Krpan
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Coaster brakes, nyet. Traffic 100 years ago bears no resemblance to traffic today.
05-17-16 | 10:15 AM
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