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Old 07-13-16, 08:25 PM
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help IDing Colnago

Hi all. I have a really lite (not too specific sorry) Colnago that I believe is from the 70's. Id guess that the frame was aluminum by the weight but there's signs of rust so I guess not.
It has been Gipiemme on the right rear dropout and 50 on the BB. Thanks
http://rlafranchise.tumblr.com/post/...812917/colnago

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Old 07-13-16, 11:21 PM
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I have serious doubts it is a Colnago.
Very small chance it is a Colnago Sport.
It did have Colnago graphics.
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Old 07-14-16, 01:13 AM
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I believe it actually is a version of Colnago Sport.
  • It says so on the down tube ("Sport" placed after and a little below "Colnago" - which is a known variety)
  • Execution of seat stay caps, fork crown, etc.
  • Overall condition vs probabillity of anyone faking it that early (70ies)
  • Colour - SCIC team blue
The bike in question:



Picture from net:



Everything points to a Colnago Sport but the head lugs - and they do it also (point that is) as they are of the variety used on the Colnago Super: s at the time. Things happened in Italian frame shops that cannot be explained 40 years later...

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Old 07-14-16, 01:47 AM
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It looks like the downtube logo on the right side may say "Colnago Sport"
However, the "sport" part is hard to read.

Do you have a photo of the logo on the left side?

Also, any cutouts on the lugs?

Colnago Sport is a possibility.

Does it have an Italian bottom bracket?
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Old 07-14-16, 04:51 AM
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Headtube lugs look very similar if not identical to my '77 Super, though similarities may not go further. It's an oldie.
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Old 07-16-16, 09:15 AM
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It is a sport. Thanks all.
COLNAGO Sport
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Old 07-16-16, 10:32 AM
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Here's another link listing all the components.
Colnago Sport [ charcoal] | Retrospective Cycles
Any idea what it's worth? Everything moves and shifts smoothly. It's just the paint that looks rough. Thanks again.
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Old 07-16-16, 11:08 AM
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Here's another link to the sport with all the components listed.
Colnago Sport [ charcoal] | Retrospective Cycles
Anyone have an idea what it's worth? Everything moves and shifts smoothly. It's just the paint that looks rough.
Thanks again
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Old 07-16-16, 12:39 PM
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It is hard to say on the value. The bike is quite rough.

Colnago Sports seem to be relatively uncommon in the USA, but of lower quality/value than a similar Colnago Super.

I might jump on it if the bike came up for sale at $200 (locally), but would probably pass at $300.

I'm not sure how you could improve the value other than a complete restoration. Definitely take care not to remove the Colnago decals unless painting & replacing as the Colnago Sports are not as distinctive as other Colnago models. Likewise, don't add Colnago Super decals.
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So it is a Sport. Not very impressive, even with the more Super like head lugs.
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I found the price the second link (same bike) was sold at.
395eur ($435 US). Cheers on the restoration tips.
Why do you say not too impressive, because of the components or the look? I'll bother you with no more questions. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

charcoal]



SPECIFICATION

Classic 70's colnago , in this rare charcoal finish , paint is original ,columbus tubing.
CRANK - campagnolo GS
FRONT DERAILLEUR - Campagnolo c-record
REAR DERAILLEUR - campagnolo GS
GEAR LEVERS - Campagnolo
GEARS- 6x2 12gears
BRAKES - campagnolo GS
BRAKE LEVER - campagnolo GS
HEADSET - campagnolo
HANDLEBAR STEM - 3ttt
HANDLEBAR - 3ttt
SEAT POST - campagnolo GS
SADDLE -Hinault turbo
HUBS - campagnolo
WHEELS - nisi super
PEDALS -campagnolo
FRAME MEASUREMENTS

seat tube 56cms
top tube 56cms
standover 81cms
year 1978
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I found the price the second link (same bike) was sold at.
395eur ($435 US). Cheers on the restoration tips.
Why do you say not too impressive, because of the components or the look? I'll bother you with no more questions. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You are welcome to continue to ask... and learn. Keep in mind that everyone here just expresses their own personal opinion.

Your bike is in rough condition, but not beyond restoration. In some ways I like the simple steel rack on the back. You could even get a unique look by cleaning it and clear-coating to protect it, with the "patina" look.

It would also be a good project bike for "fun". Not an extremely expensive bike to destroy, but it would be a nice bike when finished.

To understand value, perhaps the first thing to determine the difference between say a Colnago Super and Colnago Sport.

Super: Columbus SL tubing
Sport: Columbus Zeta tubing

Steel Vintage Bikes - Colnago Sport Classic Bicycle
This is a nice Colnago Sport classic bicycle from mit 1980s! The frame and fork are made of Columbus Zeta steel tubes. The Sport model was the amateur line by Colnago. Nevertheless, the bike is professionaly hand-made with lots of passion and lovely details.
There may have been a couple of different tubes used, so one can't be 100% sure, but it gives the general idea.

Nonetheless, looking up Zeta tubes:
Columbus 'Zeta' tubing?

Straight Gauge Seamed Chromoly Tubing, 0.9mm.

Columbus SL (Colnago Super) would be a double butted seamless 0.9/0.6/0.9 tubing.

Does it really make that big of a difference? Probably not, but maybe an extra pound or so in the weight of the frame, and everyone is a closet "weight weenie".

BTW: Some replacement decals are halfway down this page.
Colnago. Bicycle Decals For Vintage, Classic, Contemporary Colnago Bicycles

Note, the "newer" Sport decal set lists "tretubi" which is probably butted for the top tube, downtube, and maybe seat tube. But, those are just decals too.
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Please don't stop participating or asking questions, as Clifford said, these are all just opinions, but there are some very knowledgeable folks here, they have helped many of us with our questions regarding various aspects of the C&V world. Again, it is good to have you here.

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It is a sport. Thanks all.
COLNAGO Sport
I like them. They have their place in history and heritage. It deserves care, nice parts and a good rider. Fine bike.
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Old 07-17-16, 07:18 PM
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Wow. Thanks guys. You really know how to make a fella feel at home. I'll be sure to pass on the opinions and facts when they're formed and secured in my noggin.
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