Old frame question
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Old frame question
I acquired a Craigslist bike frame, Steel lugged "Flandria" bike had a rear der. but not a hanger but hooked on the axle. Does this style of frame put the bike in the 70"s or early 80's? Stripped it down as someone hand painted the frame looked very bad.
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
In the 1960s and well into the 1970s, an integral derailleur tab marked a mid-to-high-end frame, whereas a separate claw hanger, such as you describe, was typical on low-end and some mid-grade frames.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Flandria, main
unfortunately, example bike doesn't show a drive-side photo
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ben...ia_catalog.pdf
still making bikes, not much history on their website
History
I think the question being asked may have been forged v. stamped dropouts.
Forged dropouts will generally have the RD boss forged-in and tapped and are used on higher grade frames

Bikes with stamped-from-plate dropouts will generally use separate derailleur hangars.
unfortunately, example bike doesn't show a drive-side photo
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ben...ia_catalog.pdf
still making bikes, not much history on their website
History
I think the question being asked may have been forged v. stamped dropouts.
Forged dropouts will generally have the RD boss forged-in and tapped and are used on higher grade frames

Bikes with stamped-from-plate dropouts will generally use separate derailleur hangars.
Last edited by bulldog1935; 08-03-16 at 07:09 AM.
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Forged dropouts may have variable thickness (thicker faces where the axle clamps, thinner tabs where they insert into the stays, and may have Blanchard-ground faces e.g.:

Stamped dropouts are usually quite thin throughout, lack a derailleur mounting tab, and in general cheaper-looking:
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