Ooooooooooooh, so tempted...(Jo Routens)
09-21-16, 01:03 PM
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It's a great looking bike and I bet it will ride beautifully with better tires. Why isn't that good enough? If it were me, I think I would hold off on all the weights and measures. Why cloud the waters with so many facts?
The cheapo-constructo idea sounds cool but would definitely favor those with torch skills. It would be fun, though, to see what folks come up with.
The cheapo-constructo idea sounds cool but would definitely favor those with torch skills. It would be fun, though, to see what folks come up with.
09-21-16, 02:50 PM
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[QUOTE=noglider;19071980]I like that idea, @ThermionicScott. As my interest in this type of bike grows, it makes more and more sense that people do stuff like have gugie and Peter Weigle modify old bikes with torches. The end result can be excellent, and the price is a whole lot less than a new custom frame.
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Gonna need something to hold my head up, it just grew three sizes too big...
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Man, me and JP separated by a mere "and"!
Gonna need something to hold my head up, it just grew three sizes too big...
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09-21-16, 02:53 PM
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Those 'black things' are Bluemels Club Specials. And while I agree that they are not the most cool-looking choice for this particular bike (and the adjustment is way off), I do like them. Very much. They're effective, they're very light and they don't rattle. The only downside is that they're vulnerable. NOS pairs are around €75 in these parts, and I've bought complete bikes just because they had an unmolested pair of these Bluemels on them.
As for the other parts on this bike: they were chosen wisely, and I wouldn't change anything, except for the tires. Those were probably a cheap replacement for the sale.
As for the other parts on this bike: they were chosen wisely, and I wouldn't change anything, except for the tires. Those were probably a cheap replacement for the sale.
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09-21-16, 03:09 PM
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Oh, they would be a nice upgrade for sure. But that wasn't my point. If you wanted to build 'a good quality bike at a reasonable price' in 1970, your bike would be pretty much spot-on. Which is exactly what I like about it. The money-no-object versions are a lot easier.
09-21-16, 04:08 PM
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You earned it.
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09-21-16, 05:55 PM
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Not a bad idea.
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09-23-16, 11:13 PM
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When I had Gugie build an integrated rack on my Bianchi the spec was "Strong enough to hold that big head of yours." I think he interpreted that mean "brain." And dang, that thing is waaay overbuilt.
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09-28-16, 06:56 PM
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Man, that was a pretty quick shipment...
I understand these go for quite a bit with collectors, and it's in great shape:
TA cranks, Simplex front derailleur:
Plastique:
Fillet brazed:
TA handlebar bag:
Dijon map:
Another view, and shellac:
Tires are duds, need upgrading. But check out the front rack attachment:
These pics are just out of the box, around 10pm. I pumped up the tires and rode it up and down the street for 5 minutes. Feels like a low trail bike, everything works!
Did I pay a premium? Yep. But like an art collector that starts with a minor article of a famous painter, here I am. And now I have a reference bike from one of the top threre constructeurs. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I understand these go for quite a bit with collectors, and it's in great shape:
TA cranks, Simplex front derailleur:
Plastique:
Fillet brazed:
TA handlebar bag:
Dijon map:
Another view, and shellac:
Tires are duds, need upgrading. But check out the front rack attachment:
These pics are just out of the box, around 10pm. I pumped up the tires and rode it up and down the street for 5 minutes. Feels like a low trail bike, everything works!
Did I pay a premium? Yep. But like an art collector that starts with a minor article of a famous painter, here I am. And now I have a reference bike from one of the top threre constructeurs. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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09-28-16, 07:09 PM
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Thanks very much for this update with all the new imagery gugie!
Have you made your decisions regarding divestments you will be making to clear space and keep the peace?
Have you made your decisions regarding divestments you will be making to clear space and keep the peace?
09-28-16, 07:12 PM
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Looks like a really nice bike, Gugie, congrats on the acquisition. Should be great lapping up some serious miles on this one.
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09-28-16, 07:16 PM
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Love it, can't wait to see pics of it on the road. Enjoy!
09-28-16, 09:21 PM
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Some very cool details. Nice!
09-28-16, 09:45 PM
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Tres Cool. Thanks for sharing!
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I think it looks wonderful, and am slightly puzzled by the idea that it was purchased for a premium price. I dare say that parted out you could probably recover the money you spent, and as it stands you have a frame set built in the shop of a highly respected craftsmen assembled with fine contemporary components. Is it the best of everything, or anything? Perhaps not, but many more abundant bicycles with less pedigree sell regularly for more money. Hard to knock this deal!
09-28-16, 09:58 PM
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Congrats dude. Super cool. I don't think you need to justify it at all. These were works of art, and it's a lot cheaper than other hobbies like, for example, vintage cars.
I'm really digging that decaleur design. Very simple and clever. It looks like the front bag comes of by sliding left then sliding right (or vice versa). The decaleur apparently replaces the stem bolt. Plus you got a vintage TA bag, including a map of mustard country.
Is this where GT got the idea to move the seatstays forward?
I'm really digging that decaleur design. Very simple and clever. It looks like the front bag comes of by sliding left then sliding right (or vice versa). The decaleur apparently replaces the stem bolt. Plus you got a vintage TA bag, including a map of mustard country.
Is this where GT got the idea to move the seatstays forward?
09-28-16, 10:06 PM
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Gugie, thanks for the update & new pics. Really cool bike now matter the price. The handlebar bag (I saw it in the auction but wasn't sure if it was included) and alloy-railed Ideale certainly sweeten the deal. Between those items and the Routens caché, it's not unreasonable to think you could recoup your costs if you ever decide to sell. And in the meantime, the smiles it will surely bring you will be priceless! 
09-28-16, 10:51 PM
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For once I'm going to leave well enough alone.
Well, new rubber and fenders. Gotta go vintage Lefol on this one.
Well, new rubber and fenders. Gotta go vintage Lefol on this one.
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09-28-16, 11:36 PM
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I've got a list started, I'll post something soon...
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09-29-16, 12:04 AM
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Thank you for the new pics. I really, really like it. Money well spent, I'd say.
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09-29-16, 01:54 AM
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Absolutely fabulous, well done and money well spent. 
09-29-16, 08:54 AM
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Looks like you found a bike for Cino next year.
Can't wait to see it in person. Cool bike, Gugie!
Can't wait to see it in person. Cool bike, Gugie!
09-29-16, 10:47 AM
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Yeah - more pics of that. I would love to see how that's done.
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