Help ID a Pinarello
 

Hey Folks,

I don't think it's the Montello because of the routing, but I didn't think the record, or treviso, had SLX tubing.

Anyone more knowledgeable about Pinarellos want to help me with model/date?

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Do you have a shot of the bottom bracket shell?

Looks like a repaint.

I thought so too, seller says no, just lightly ridden.

No shot of BB at this time.

There also appears to be a chainstay bridge in the top photo, which is another sign that it's not a Montello. The SLX decal doesn't look correct either. I've never seen one with the top line "Tubi Superbutted" in red, which htis appears to be. Dual bottle bosses and pump peg, if oEM, puts it into the late 1980s. This could just be a Treviso with a (faux?) SLX decal. SOP is to check for helical ridges inside the bottom of the fork's steerer (indicating at least SL) then check fo same inside bottom of tubes at BB.

Edit: Oops just saw previous post and realized you were not in possession of bicycle.

Right :)

The issue is if I want to be, and at what price. Asking price is reasonable, but reasonable doesn't cut it for me. I have a lot of nice bikes sort of like this, and a FAR cooler Pinarello (at least I think so).

Actually...the more I'm thinking about this, the less interested I am. I think I'll post to the ebay thread.

As an FYI - I have an agreement to meet the guy tonight at 8. If someone wants this (asking is $600), let me know and I'll facilitate.

Vintage Italian Columbus steel Pinarello Campagnolo Super Record

Does anyone know when Columbus started using red decals with SLX on the fork? I didn't think that happened until the early 90's but I could definitely be wrong.

I think I've seen a few Montellos with this kind of brake cable routing, but they're usually internal. As T-Mar says, the lack of chainstay bridge is the real indicator.

The flat fork crown on this bike looks like that on my ~1984 Gran Turismo (except that one is chrome). The later ones I've seen have a more sloping crown, at least in the upper models.

Labels located opposite the pump peg typically are damaged by the pump. This one looks unusually nice and so is suspect.

Yes, fork is incorrect for late 1980s too. Then there is the total lack of chrome.

Regarding the SLX decals, they are from different eras. The fork decal has the wide border on the top, which came out about 1988. The seat tube decal has the wide border on the bottom, which was 1984-1987. The palamares decal looks like the Camapione del Mondo '90 version.

It certainly appears to be legitimate Pinarello but nothing is adding up for me.

So what we're saying is repaint and that the seller isn't aware. He received from uncle, who he said rarely used it and that he was pretty sure it was original.

So probably an SL model, mid-80s.

I wouldn't even bet on it being SL. The 1987 catalog shows the Dolomite and Veneto with this sort of a fork crown, though neither appears to have a braze on for the front derailleur. The Asolo has the front derailleur braze on but not the same fork crown. I'm guessing it's one of these models from a different year, but still late 80's. The paint may be original, but the decals likely are not.

Conformed with seller that post is 27.2, so likely not below SL.

Now that I've seen all the pictures I'd bet it's early '80s, given the Portacatena dropouts. Definitely not a Montello.

Crap, didn't notice that...you're right. Portacenta drops would place it early 80s...like 81ish.

Something about the placement of the SLX sticker and Pinarello decals looks off to me, they seem crowded right up against the seat lug and each other.

Seat tube PINARELLO decal is too high, [MENTION=159681]Bianchigirll[/MENTION] - normally it's centered on the seat tube.

It's not just you. Your other Pinarello is wicked cool. :)

Whats the PAT on the back of the rear derailleur?