Is this Pinarello frame real?
 

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I'm not sure if this frame
is really Pinarello or is it something else.
I know for sure that it is a good frame (it is very light) and pretty sure that it is an italian frame ,but it could be japanese .I'm wondering if this is the real deal or not , and if it's not then what is it? Any help would be appriceated.Please reply.

Look on the bottom bracket. It should be stamped Pinarello. If you're concerned about the decals coming off, that is common. Mine has the same affliction.

Thank you very much! Also ,I can't seem to find a single which has the same color pattern on the internet.This one looks 85-86 ish but I'm not really sure.How can I determine the model and year.Thank you in advance!

seat stay tube caps, investment cast?

Yeah , as far as I can tell they are.

Take close-up pictures of the bottom bracket shell, seat stay caps, fork crown, dropouts, etc. and post your question in the "Classic & Vintage" discussion area.

There is a place for the GP logo as is the fork crown and as said the BB shell ..

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Thread moved from General Cycling to Classic & Vintage.

They did things like that in the mid-to-late 80's. Here's a pictures of Pinarello Venetos that turned up on a Google image search.

https://c8.staticflickr.com/2/1035/1...b01350c2_b.jpg

Without better pictures of yours, this would be my best guess as to what you have.

Here's another thread that shows the kind of details you should be looking for to verify the bike's identity: http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...lo-veneto.html

Decals peeling off, it must be a real Pinarello.

The OP also put that pic in another thread to say that this "Pinarello" had many (he said 100%) of the details of another mystery frame that never got positively ID'd, as of yet.
But based on all the guesses I think the "other frame" is some unknown Italian Contract Builder who might have also made this "Pinarello" which I put in quotes cause I'm not sure if it's an authorized Pinar or just aftermarket decal'd to look like one.
But from what we can see of the "other frame" it has no pantographs except some that look LIKE Columbus doves, but not the same as BMZ used on their contract frames (including those sold by Palo Alto) and the tubing decals are (poor) copies of Columbus decals so the tubing itself is unknown, too.

http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ngravings.html

Better pics are required...