Help ID this Gitane
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Help ID this Gitane
I think this bike is a mid 70s Gitane Tour de France but the Gitane catalogs are not as complete as I might like and I was hoping to have some help. The bike is, as far as I can tell, unmolested. The 3 main tubes are Reynolds 531 DB. It's a big bike (too large for me) with a 63 cm seat tube and a 60 cm top tube. The crank is a nice first generation Stronglight 99 crank. The pedals are English threaded atom 700. The hubs are campy tipo laced to ambrosio alloy clincher rims (27 inch). The hubs are I believe English threaded (the freewheel is a pretty fresh looking shimano 5 speed). The brakes are weinmann center pulls. The bike has the huret honeycomb drop out. The rear derailleur is a suntour VGT, the FD is that weird suntour that works in reverse, and suntour barcons. The bike has a very cool pivo randonneur bar, a campy NR seatpost, and an ideale 80 saddle. Plus the bike even came with a steel TA water bottle cage (the best vintage water bottle cage IMHO). The paint and decals are in very nice condition; I'd say it's a 8.5 out of 10. All in all, this bike is very nicely appointed and the parts all look to be in fine condition.
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I suspect not unmolested. French bikes of that vintage would not be likely to have so much Japanese stuff on them. Can't help you with the specific model, but this is a nice one and if I'd owned it back in the day I'd have put the same kind of parts on it. Did, actually, with a PX10.
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I suspect not unmolested. French bikes of that vintage would not be likely to have so much Japanese stuff on them. Can't help you with the specific model, but this is a nice one and if I'd owned it back in the day I'd have put the same kind of parts on it. Did, actually, with a PX10.
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I'd even go so far as to guess the bike originally came with an older Stronglight crank, maybe a 49 at best.
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The freewheel and chain are pretty new and that the derailleurs may well have been replacements but they date roughly from the time period of the bike (suntour VGT luxe RD, Come V FD, and suntour barcons) and may have been an "upgrade."
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This is helpful since it helps me date the bike.
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Useful thread for dating honeycomb Gitanes here, https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-get-here.html
Looks like the mid 70s TdF came with 27 inch clinchers.
Looks like the mid 70s TdF came with 27 inch clinchers.
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Most of the interclubs were "entry" level bikes and in most model years came with what appears hi tensile steel tubing.
Gitane USA - Interclub
Interesting. My bike has a pretty lugs with windows and gold pinstriping; the rear brake bridge has nice reinforcements. I also have a mid 70s Peugeot PR 10 which is a similar level of bike (reynolds 531 DB main frame) and the workmanship is more utilitarian than the Gitane.
Gitane USA - Interclub
Interesting. My bike has a pretty lugs with windows and gold pinstriping; the rear brake bridge has nice reinforcements. I also have a mid 70s Peugeot PR 10 which is a similar level of bike (reynolds 531 DB main frame) and the workmanship is more utilitarian than the Gitane.
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Right and also it would not all have been unusual for a customer to spec different parts on a new bike. No one cared obviously whether the bike was according to specs back in the day and the parts that that were picked out are consistently high quality items from the 70s (first gen stronglight 99 crank, atom 700 pedals, nice ambrosio clincher rims laced to tipo high flange hubs, weinmann 610 centerpulls, ideale 80 saddle, campy NR seatpost, and the derailleur group consisting of a suntour VGT RD, suntour compe v FD, and barcons). Certainly the suntour derailleurs were likely the best available in the 70s. These are nice mods that a knowledgeable shop/consumer picked out (even if it is difficult to figure out which is a mod and which is original with some of the parts).
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I think it's a '74-75 Tour de France; the Stronglight headset is original but not much else. It's from the years Gitane Pacific imported them. The Interclub frame from those years was pretty much identical - I owned 3-tube 531 Interclub for a while - but kitted out with lesser parts. The Stronglight P3 headset makes me think TdF.
Stock parts would have included Mafac brakes, Simplex derailleurs and Stronglight 93 cranks. From what I have read, the ride quality on a 3-tube 531 in this size should be indistinguishable from full 531.
Cool bike, good upgrades, would love one of those in my size!
Stock parts would have included Mafac brakes, Simplex derailleurs and Stronglight 93 cranks. From what I have read, the ride quality on a 3-tube 531 in this size should be indistinguishable from full 531.
Cool bike, good upgrades, would love one of those in my size!
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I think it's a '74-75 Tour de France; the Stronglight headset is original but not much else. It's from the years Gitane Pacific imported them. The Interclub frame from those years was pretty much identical - I owned 3-tube 531 Interclub for a while - but kitted out with lesser parts. The Stronglight P3 headset makes me think TdF.
Stock parts would have included Mafac brakes, Simplex derailleurs and Stronglight 93 cranks. From what I have read, the ride quality on a 3-tube 531 in this size should be indistinguishable from full 531.
Cool bike, good upgrades, would love one of those in my size!
Stock parts would have included Mafac brakes, Simplex derailleurs and Stronglight 93 cranks. From what I have read, the ride quality on a 3-tube 531 in this size should be indistinguishable from full 531.
Cool bike, good upgrades, would love one of those in my size!
I've owned two different 3 tube 531 bikes; they make fine riders and I agree that the ride quality is tough to distinguish from the full ticker 531.
I actually bought the Gitane for the parts for the Peugeot PR 10 I'm building (particularly the saddle and pedals). I may use the wheels as well.
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