Amazing, [MENTION=111144]Andy_K[/MENTION] has 18 hooks in his garage that are all used.

Is it possible we've discovered a natural limit that most keep at or under? [MENTION=396646]Spaghetti Legs[/MENTION], how many you gots? And if there's an issue, ship one out to the Atelier, we can call it a Zero Bike.

I'm at 18 if I stop counting at 18.

What constitutes a bike? I have several fully-disassembled "invisible" ones.

If he wants to send out one of those Italian racing beauties, maybe the Cinelli, I'd volunteer to take it out once in a while to make sure it hasn't developed any mechanical flaws while hanging on the hook. :innocent:

You know I was reading this thinking "around 16 or 18" is the number I toss out when asked how many I have but it's been a while since I counted. Surprised to find it's actually 21 + 4 (oops forgot the Masi on the stand) make that 5 frames. I am at the point though where I mostly transfer parts from one frame to the next so rarely add complete bikes to the stable. Of course I also said that when I had 16-17 bikes.
Andy, I am definitely most possibly almost to the point of considering selling a couple but the Cinelli aint on that short list. I got Andy 56 cm bikes in PDX so don't need a zero bike there, right?

There's a theme tour - TdZeroBike - Buncha people fly in to a BF'er with 18 hooks, pick out one, off we go. [MENTION=45088]nlerner[/MENTION] is very familiar with this concept.

Don, was that your Follis with the Simplex bar-end shifters that I saw the other day at NW Hub? First time I have ever seen those in real life.

Well, I'm currently at 18 bikes plus 4 frames plus a zero bike in Maryland, but I recently heard my wife tell someone I had 15 bikes so I need an explanation handy for the other three, in case she counts. My story with one is that I plan to give it to Community Cycling Center but just haven't gotten around to it (that part is true). Maybe I can tell her one is for you to ride when you're in town and one is for [MENTION=45088]nlerner[/MENTION]. Neal has at least ridden one, so it's a plausible story. Not quite a zero bike, but I've got a math degree so I'm very good at hand waving while giving an explanation that doesn't quite fully demonstrate what I claim it does.

The person who she told I had 15 bikes asked, "Why do you need so many bikes?" These non-bike people! They don't know nuttin'!

BTW, another pro-tip for people avoiding the S-1 limit... One of my "frames" is a fully built bike that I took the wheels off of for repair a few months ago. Now the wheels are stored in a pile with other spare wheels, and the "frame" is hanging from the ceiling between a couple of (mostly) bare frames. Any one of them could become a bike in time for a ride tomorrow if need be.

That's a brilliant idea! Put it on the calendar!

Wait a sec: if I fly to PDX and ride one of yours or one of [MENTION=111144]Andy_K[/MENTION]’s bikes, and it’s not a zero bike that I keep there for my visits, then it’s a -1 bike, thereby reducing my total fleet! Oh, maths are powerful.

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Fascinating idea. There’s an analogue in the chemical reaction world.

Having a zero bike, or two, or three, may help keep you away from the dreaded bike activation limit, where once arguing starts it won’t stop until an overall lower number of bikes is retained. It sounds like an average bike activation limit is approximately 18. God forbid you add a catalyst like complaining about a spouse’s spending spree on shoes or similar, or you may lower the dreaded bike activation limit.

Arrhenius gave us the equation, don’t pretend he didn’t warn us.


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Or another way to say this, if you’re at bike equilibrium, but you add too many bikes (could be one, could be a dozen), you might not find equilibrium again until the final number of bikes is less than the original. Zero bikes exist outside the reaction zone and therefore have no effect on the system.

Methinks there's a Nobel Prize there somewheres.

That's the one. I kept the Nisi wheelset though. Don

Six years later and I finally get to see your Austin Healey, now driveable!

...and here it is, right next to my Raleigh touring bike!

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1965 Austin Healey Sprite

I describe my modest fleet as "two, and four-half bikes". Currently two ridable, but frames, parts, and wheels for two more.

And yes, I realize that should be "six-thirds".

I'm very grateful that my wife doesn't really care how many bikes I have, as long as she's allow to make fun of however many I have. It's a good agreement.

Oh man, this thread!! Excited almost always to see a thread resurrected, but this one especially! :D

I have a question for the zero bike cognoscenti. What happens if it's a tandem? Does it still count as zero? What about a motorcycle?

Forgive me for the stupid question, I'm not a mathematician, I'm only a biologist/framebutcher.

That color is very close to my departed ‘72 Midget. Great minds and all that. I assume when mine was repainted the push-in letters spelled “MIGDET”. I left it that way just ‘cause and the car became the MIGDET.

1275 or Datsun trans swap on yours?

Has nothing to do with how many seats, or I suppose if it has an engine on it.

If you keep it at a friend's house, it's a zero bike.

Hey, I didn't invent this, my phone did (see post #1 in this thread).

She only has to make fun of one of them.

-Kurt

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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What’s that in metric?

You guys should patent the concept before someone at Netflix reads the thread.