What the ? Is this right ?
08-19-17 | 05:06 PM
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Bikes: 1963? Anquetil , 1973 PX10,1979 PX10,1984 PX10, VITUS 979 PX10DU,1970S ALAN,1985 PSV10,1980s PY10FC,1978 bERTIN,ALAN carbon
What the ? Is this right ?
saw this bike today on local NZ auction site .
Advertised as a Frejus .. I dont know anything about Frejus but this seat bolt just looks wrong!
What do you learned people think ?
Advertised as a Frejus .. I dont know anything about Frejus but this seat bolt just looks wrong!
What do you learned people think ?
08-19-17 | 05:21 PM
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Frame likely exited works wearing a seat binder collar.
Perhaps the top of the seat tube got damaged and someone just decided to remove it, or they removed it for some aesthetic purpose.
Frejus seat lug w/binder collar:
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Frame likely exited works wearing a seat binder collar.
Perhaps the top of the seat tube got damaged and someone just decided to remove it, or they removed it for some aesthetic purpose.
Frejus seat lug w/binder collar:
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08-19-17 | 06:19 PM
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So collar is gone and some roughie has drilled through frame and seat post ! yikes
thank you
08-19-17 | 06:28 PM
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Some Frejus frames have regular seat binder ears. If the bicycle in question had them and they have been removed one should be able to view the "scars."
This Frejus dated 1963 has the ears:
Frejus seat lugs are seen both with and without the vertical cutout slot. Also both with and without the binder ears.
Suspect machine in question may be a late fifties midliner, likely built of Falck or similar tubeset.
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Some Frejus frames have regular seat binder ears. If the bicycle in question had them and they have been removed one should be able to view the "scars."
This Frejus dated 1963 has the ears:
Frejus seat lugs are seen both with and without the vertical cutout slot. Also both with and without the binder ears.
Suspect machine in question may be a late fifties midliner, likely built of Falck or similar tubeset.
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08-20-17 | 01:25 AM
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That's not right. Everybody knows the head should be on the drive side.
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