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Old 08-23-17 | 10:36 AM
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Some of the aluminum geared hubs with the built-in drum brakes look like they might sell well to the right buyer on ebay. Are there any flea markets nearby where bicycle parts are sold? Perhaps something like our Craigs List where you could generate some local interest and get potential buyers to come by and look to see what you have? Consider bundling or box-lot pricing. Just too much to sell one or two pieces at a time.
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Old 08-23-17 | 01:36 PM
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Thanks to all who have commented so far. What I understand and appreciate from your comments is that there is little to be overly concerned about and maybe cherry picking a few is the best way forward. 3speedslow - your comments are taken on board. Big thank you. CromoMike - it would be nice to be in a large population area but I'm afraid we are pretty rural here. Thanks for taking the time to view the albums.

To all who have commented, and those yet to comment, i really appreciate the time you have taken in helping me. If you are ever in this part of the world - drop me a line and I will be glad to reciprocate in any way I can. At least let me buy you a drink.
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Old 08-23-17 | 01:39 PM
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Thanks for the hint. I wish I had realised that when I first started.
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[MENTION=468444]Art1st[/MENTION], one thought and I saw a brief mention of the American equivalent, a "bike jumble" over there is a good place to sell many of the bikes and parts to folks looking for vintage stuff and complete bikes. If you go to the UK Classic Lightweights website these come up frequently, Peter usually lists some in his news letters. https://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/index.html

Also, Veteran-Cycle Club https://www.v-cc.org.uk

I hope that any of the things I offered up are helpful, my best to your brother and his rehab.

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Old 08-23-17 | 02:58 PM
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after a quick look at the photos the bikes and parts (with a few exceptions such as the Chater Lea chainrings), are outside of the Classic Lightweight style and time period.
I would suggest two UK facebook groups
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagebicyclesuk
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagebicyclesuksales

as these bikes and parts would have a better fit to a number of members of those groups.
These are also specialist groups eg https://www.facebook.com/groups/themoultonbicycle/ and there may be other suggestions for specialists interests for the trade/postal bikes.
This may help in reducing the inventory.
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Old 08-23-17 | 03:44 PM
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after a quick look at the photos the bikes and parts (with a few exceptions such as the Chater Lea chainrings), are outside of the Classic Lightweight style and time period.
I would suggest two UK facebook groups
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagebicyclesuk
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagebicyclesuksales

as these bikes and parts would have a better fit to a number of members of those groups.
These are also specialist groups eg https://www.facebook.com/groups/themoultonbicycle/ and there may be other suggestions for specialists interests for the trade/postal bikes.
This may help in reducing the inventory.
Thanks Big Block. I have signed up to join the groups. I will also google Charter Link chainrings in order to start educating myself.
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Old 08-23-17 | 04:04 PM
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Thanks Big Block. I have signed up to join the groups. I will also google Charter Link chainrings in order to start educating myself.
useful is Chater Lea
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Old 08-23-17 | 04:23 PM
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Viking and Hobbs Blue Riband are special
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Old 08-23-17 | 04:47 PM
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Viking and Hobbs Blue Riband are special
The Viking is the Ian Steel model which Viking describes as "The Ian Steel Model was introduced in 195x as a budget racing bike, but with a very commendable specification for an entry-level racer."
I know of the grandson of Ian Steel, and he has one of his grandfather's race bikes.
The Hobbs looks as if it has been repainted, so a check would be needed to verify if it was one. But all the original components have been replaced. And replacing with period components is expensive. I have a 1952 Blue Riband; nearly finished collecting the parts for.
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Old 08-23-17 | 04:52 PM
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Veteran Cycle Club (aaffiliated with Cambridge Ltwt. News) still has a substantial membership all over UK. Someone should be found who has eclectic taste in old bikes. Besides the obvious gems there are lots of useful parts. Many of the plain black roadsters and sports are worthy. But yes, this could be cut down about 80%, maybe 90% quickly and become more manageable.
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Old 08-23-17 | 05:14 PM
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There may be a hidden treasure or two. The small-wheeled Moultons have a cult following, and you have a "death fork" Lambert there, the orange and white road bike with the aluminum fork. There's a history of breakage but if it survived this long it might be okay. Might want to read up on it.

My sister survived multiple strokes and lived a decade in a diminished state. I wish she'd had all those bikes to make her care less...challenging.

There's also a Kirk cast magnesium-framed mountain bike there. That has to be collectible for someone.

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Old 08-23-17 | 06:18 PM
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i'd love to have the clubman and thestronglight crank.
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Old 08-24-17 | 02:57 AM
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Sorry to be a numbskull - but which bike is the clubman?
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to help guide your descriptions of each bike, a key one is the sizing

and expressed in cms so nnST/nnTT (CtoC) should be sufficient to indicate the size and confirmation that it is a centre to centre measurement, and not as some do, a centre to top (of seat tube)
also probably useful to also note the wheel size and this should be marked on the tyres and for most (for the regular bikes) would probably be 26", 27" and 700C, but because it is such an eclectic collection, these should be clearly indicated.
You need to think if you want to sell them individually or in 'trade' sized lots.
Some of the bikes may yield more by 'parting out' but this involves disassembly and identification, and lots of individual listings.
Others I would think are better left intact.
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Old 08-24-17 | 06:50 AM
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My observations, for whatever they are worth -

The Moultons, the Moulton magazines, and the Raleigh RSW small-wheeled bikes have a cult following and would sell.

There are several vintage lightweights, including the aforementioned Freddie Grubb, another Freddie Grubb frameset in the parts collection, as well as the Vikings and that lovely Armstrong road/track frameset with the BSA chainset, that would be valuable, and gently cleaned and well-photographed would be good eBay fodder.

There are a couple of Pashleys in the mix that ought to bring something.

There are a LOT of roadsters and Sports-pattern bikes that would possibly bring in some money, though perhaps more over in the U.S. where they are relatively scarce.

IF you can find a source for cheap/free bike boxes, and IF you can do the work of partially dismantling them for shipment, I would suggest looking into eBay and most especially into their international shipping options. I have been pleasantly surprised at how cheaply things I have sold through eBay have been to ship to the U.K., and it is possible that their price breaks might make shipping carefully packaged roadsters to the U.S. affordable enough that they would be worth selling.

About a dozen years ago I was given the task of selling a garage full of items from my wife's grandmother's estate. My wife's grandfather had been a merchant sailor from 1929-1975 and had brought back a zillion trinkets and bits of memorabilia. I took my time selling this stuff, because I was able to do so in my spare time. I was routinely surprised at what would sell and for how much - the one that I still shake my head over was a pair of cardboard drink coasters from a bar in French Indochina that a gentleman from the U.K. paid me $250 for. IF you have the luxury of time and can take this on piecemeal, you could certainly generate some funds for the vintage adult stuff.

If you choose to go that route, all the detailed suggestions above regarding photos, photo angles, measurements, etc., are worth their weight in gold. I found a lot of quick information online as I went on all manner of things - who knew that a dozen Cherilea toy Foreign Legion soldiers made of lead could be so valuable? - but it can be done. If you go this route, this forum and the VCC would be golden resources to help identify things and thereby attract the attention you want.

The issue is time, and how much you have to devote to this and how comfortable you are with doing this work. Do you know or know of anyone trustworthy enough to liquidate this stuff for you? I have a running relationship with a local shop that periodically uncovers old used stuff in another forgotten bin. Often the manager has me sell it via an auction site and I get a cut, the store gets money it didn't have, and stuff that was never going to sell locally moves on out.

Good luck, and please do take care of yourself!
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Old 08-24-17 | 10:50 AM
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That is a very eclectic collection. I think you will need help from a cycling enthusiast or club to sort it all out. There are real gems mixed in with a lot of mediocrity and assorted junk.

No one has mentioned the Itera plastic bike, but those are very rare and someone must collect them. As thumpism mentioned the Kirk magnesium bike is notable also. Those were quite expensive and rare when they were new. The Moulton's have a following of course. The cargo bikes are desirable in certain areas as well.

You should be able to come up with a fair market value for all those roadsters. I'd suppose they'd sell for at least $200 each unrestored in major urban areas of N. America. Some appear to be quite old and possibly rare, and could be worth much more in the UK. I don't know. As others have said, check with a club.

A lot of the parts could be listed and sold on ebay. For sure the dyno hubs and brooks saddles are worth some money. A large proportion of it is junk though. Again you'll need help to sort it out.
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Originally Posted by Art1st
Sorry to be a numbskull - but which bike is the clubman?
this is the clubman.


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that is the stronglight crank.
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Old 08-24-17 | 12:10 PM
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Thanks Russell. I will make a note of that.
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Thanks Big Block, thanks Rustystrings61. I tried posting a message earlier but it does not appear to have worked
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As others have said sorry to hear of your families misfortune. I just hate to say this at this point since you have put so much work into the photos already but here's a tip. Take photos from the right side (chain side) of the bikes whenever possible. It will show the drivetrain which will help show any value the bike may have better.

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and all these years i thought in UK the drivetrain was on the left! who knew?
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Does anybody know what this one is? It looks interesting.

https://goo.gl/photos/Qc3SQ56K1j3WERQ27




Ah -- answered my own question: https://www.classiclightweights.co.uk...rs/holmes.html . Entry-level, but I'd certainly be interested, were I in the UK.

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Looks like it says 'Holmes"
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