Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Freewheel to Cassette Changeover?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Freewheel to Cassette Changeover?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-20-17 | 09:59 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: SE Pennsylvania

Bikes: Vintage French road bikes, older "rescue" mountain bikes

Freewheel to Cassette Changeover?

When did this take place? I have an early 1980's (I think) Motobecane that has a cassette, but all my other bikes have freewheels. These were all "rescues" and I was not the original buyer, so I don't know exactly how old they are. Questions:

1) Does it vary by price? Did more expensive bikes switch over earlier?
2) Are there still any new bikes sold that have freewheels?
fritz1255 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 10:04 AM
  #2  
Iride01's Avatar
Facts just confuse people
Titanium Club Membership
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 19,374
Likes: 7,077
From: Mississippi

Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020

There is a lot of info here.... https://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html

Take all the links. Interesting read.

I think "yes" is the answer to #1. Older bikes might have uniglide and that may or may not be a problem depending on what you want to do.
Iride01 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 10:13 AM
  #3  
due ruote's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,474
Likes: 559
It's also common for people to upgrade wheels. I don't know about your Moto but it's a possibility.
due ruote is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 10:14 AM
  #4  
Lascauxcaveman's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 7,955
Likes: 702
From: Port Angeles, WA

Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.

Originally Posted by fritz1255
...
2) Are there still any new bikes sold that have freewheels?
Many, many new bikes come with freewheels still. Most of the ones I'm aware of are bottom rung (Walmart, dept store) brands. But there may be others.
__________________
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●

Lascauxcaveman is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 12:29 PM
  #5  
Dave Mayer's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,863
Likes: 856
I'd bet that the majority of new bikes sold in the First World use freewheel cogsets. Most bikes are sold through discount chain stores, not bike shops.

In the developing world, where overwhelmingly most bike sales occur, this number is likely close to 100%.

Modern 7-speed freewheels from Shimano and Sunrace are very good. They feature Hyperglide-type cogs that are capable of shifting as well as any current 10, 11-speed etc. cassette system. These freewheels shift better than all of the old systems from 30+ years ago, either freewheel or cassette. They are one of the great bargains in cycling.

So a $15 Shimano TZ21 freewheel will always shift better than any of the stacks of Dura-Ace or Shimano 600 freewheels that clutter my garage. Or any of the old Uniglide cassettes.
Dave Mayer is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 01:18 PM
  #6  
Dfrost's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 2,036
Likes: 550
From: Pacific Northwest

Bikes: ‘87 Marinoni SLX Sports Tourer, ‘79 Miyata 912 by Gugificazione

My 1979 Miyata 912 with the Shimano 600EX arabesque group had the first (6-speed) cassette I’d seen, and the catalog from that year shows all the other Miyatas with freewheels. The 1983 catalog, now including Aero and Pro Miyata race bikes, still had freewheels on all except the 912, still the only model with the 600EX group and cassette.

Last edited by Dfrost; 09-20-17 at 04:46 PM.
Dfrost is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 01:39 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,347
Likes: 21

Bikes: Fillet-brazed Schwinns

The first Schwinn with a cassette was the 1979 Super Le Tour II:


Metacortex is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 01:57 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 6,280
Likes: 612
From: Los Angeles

Bikes: 78 Masi Criterium, 68 PX10, 2016 Mercian King of Mercia, Rivendell Clem Smith Jr

IIRC the transition took several years and it's hard to put a point on it, but offhand I'd say the corner was around '84 or '85, more or less. As noted, cassettes were around for some time before they really took off.

What Motobecane is it? I vaguely remember one model that came with 600 arabesque. Could have come with a cassette.
Salamandrine is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 03:20 PM
  #9  
miamijim's Avatar
Senior Member
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Donating
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,973
Likes: 145
From: Tampa, Florida
Cassettes have been around since the 70's perhaps earlier.

The big transition occurred in the late 80's...
miamijim is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-17 | 04:08 PM
  #10  
52telecaster's Avatar
ambulatory senior
5 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 6,451
Likes: 4,517
From: Peoria Il

Bikes: Austro Daimler modified by Gugie! Raleigh Professional and lots of other bikes.

Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
I'd bet that the majority of new bikes sold in the First World use freewheel cogsets. Most bikes are sold through discount chain stores, not bike shops.

In the developing world, where overwhelmingly most bike sales occur, this number is likely close to 100%.

Modern 7-speed freewheels from Shimano and Sunrace are very good. They feature Hyperglide-type cogs that are capable of shifting as well as any current 10, 11-speed etc. cassette system. These freewheels shift better than all of the old systems from 30+ years ago, either freewheel or cassette. They are one of the great bargains in cycling.

So a $15 Shimano TZ21 freewheel will always shift better than any of the stacks of Dura-Ace or Shimano 600 freewheels that clutter my garage. Or any of the old Uniglide cassettes.
i agree wholeheartedly on the quality of modern freewheels. just put a new sunrace 13-28 7 speed freewheel on a campy hub and it shifts like butter. makes nuovo record derailleurs almost good!
52telecaster is offline  
Reply
Old 09-21-17 | 05:45 AM
  #11  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: SE Pennsylvania

Bikes: Vintage French road bikes, older "rescue" mountain bikes

Originally Posted by Salamandrine
IIRC the transition took several years and it's hard to put a point on it, but offhand I'd say the corner was around '84 or '85, more or less. As noted, cassettes were around for some time before they really took off.

What Motobecane is it? I vaguely remember one model that came with 600 arabesque. Could have come with a cassette.
Jubilee Sport. It was an EBay aquisition indirectly. Don't know what year, but I will do some research.
fritz1255 is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
AirborneFluff
Bicycle Mechanics
12
01-31-17 10:32 AM
rootboy
Classic & Vintage
13
12-14-14 03:10 PM
The Cars
Bicycle Mechanics
3
08-10-11 12:17 PM
noglider
Classic & Vintage
13
10-10-10 07:59 AM
jh08rk
Touring
7
03-29-10 08:04 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.