Contini it is!:D
Thanks for the education Marco!:thumb::thumb:

Thank you Salamandrine and Chombi1.
Theese are my first posts in the Forum, somehow this is my introduction.
Excuses for my English , it's not my best after 12 hours night duty shift.

Certainly points strongest to that. The fork I will call essentially identical.
How Cinelli did not get Contini to modify their logo might be an interesting tale in of itself.

The original poster will not be pleased. They did not get a bad value, just not a great value.

Yes, the fork crown engraving looks "identical" except the crown does not look like any of the Contini fork crowns shown, and the fork may not be original, AND aside from that there is MUCH more in common with the "Coppi" than with anything Contini seen here or elsewhere. Color me skeptical about the OP's being a Contini product, aside from his copying the 'winged C' logo (well documented) I still don't see convincing evidence regarding this one...

Another possibility would be Montagner. Prior to developing his own embossing, he used stock Cinelli fittings. He also used the OP's style of seat stays to seat lug junction and he was a known advocate of fluted tubing.

I had a (much) later fluted montagner with Oria tubing...actually a very cool frame.

Luigi Montagner was also a fan of Oria tubing, but the OP's just does not have the "finesse" I associate with any Montagner product... and for that reason I might be convinced that it's a Contini since his build quality (from examples I've seen) tends toward the middle ground, but still have not seen the convincing evidence.

Fully determining who the author is might allude us till a sistership surfaces.
The crown top decoration is lacking crispness on the "Cinelli". It does appear to use internal spigots. The Contini in chrome - exterior sockets and better detail. The headlugs show almost identical to the Coppi but the stay end treatment is different. We might assume the frame and fork are a matched pair but maybe not.
The paint just "feels" respray to me.

Hello, I wrote a detailed response but again Bike Forums refused to accept it. Here is a precis and a final statement from me.
The frame and fork are not Cineeli / Columbus and are not related in any way.
The frame is a Fausto Coppi built by Masciaghi, with 4 ribbed Tecnotrat tubing, with Gipiemme drop-out lugs.
The fork also has Gipiemme lugs and it has had the fork crown badly engraved to represent Cinelli's winged C.
The seller will not take the frame / fork back and is therefore an unscrupulous faker, with no morals - beware !

If you open a quick reply and take too long.. BF kicks it back.
(best to select the text block and copy it just in case, been there experienced that, don't take it personally)
Too bad about the seller. Depending on the time after sale you can open a dispute with ebay, you will be out shipping most likely.

According to the Italian Ebay listing, it says the auction was stopped because the item "was lost or damaged" (translated to English). There were no bids listed. Does this mean that you did your transaction outside of Ebay, like a straight offer, he accepted, and you have no ebay protections like "item not as represented" or you simply decided you didn't want it? If you had done it through ebay and Paypal, you'd have some potential muscle to stand behind you. If you did it outside of ebay, well, Caveat Emptor as they say. Its not a "huge" sum of money (about $500 or so with shipping I'm guessing), and you do have a bike, just not the one you thought you had. For some people when they get scammed, they don't even have a product like nothing ever shipped, or even a box of bricks instead of what they should have.

As with a number of things in life, chalk this one up to a moderately expensive mistake which you have learned now, and know in the future there are people, like the folks who answered your questions in this thread, who are willing to help, provide information, and yes, correct erroneous perceptions, clear up rose colored glasses wishes, and even provide help with true identification of said bike, or at least lead in a better direction.

I was in the same boat a few weeks ago, having thought I found a "true" classic frame with many features very very closely following a fairly rare model. But it too was a repaint, with no other ID clearly giving its identity clarity. My only advantage was it is local and after doing a lot of research both here at BF, CR, and other sites, I was able to ID it before I went out to look at it. I didn't buy it then, but I will be buying it soon because it did not sell on the venue it was listed on. I will be spending good money for it, but I will know exactly what it is before plunking down about the same that you spent, less any shipping. That's pretty much what we all need to do with any purchase because of unscrupulous sellers like yours was.

Keidal, we all make mistakes, and none of us feels worse than when taken by someone else. I'm sure most all posters here feel for you, and many of us have probably been there as well (like me buying cracked Campy crankarms when they weren't pictured as being cracked). The folks here at BF are pretty sharp, and yes, can be quite quick or blunt, especially when the question you asked comes back with an answer you may not have liked or wanted to hear - that's human nature. However, I would implore you to stick around and stay a productive member of BF. I'm sure also that there would be quite a few folks who would like to see how you transform this bike from what it isn't to what it is - a decent bike that perhaps deserves to be brought back to its original provenance, make, and model.

Another bike with similar CX discussion, non-fluted I think, check out the lavender bike with similar BB cutout treatment as OP. Lots of counterfeit Cinellis out there it seems.

Cinelli Only: 1980s Cinelli "CX" ???

The "big" names are a soft target to impersonate.
Cinelli is in a unique position as they designed and marketed fittings that bore the Cinelli mark and were sold to other makers. All too frequently we see here bikes with Cinelli brand cast bottom bracket shells bearing the Cinelli logo where the current owner assumes he has a Cinelli. To the new arrivals to vintage bikes a reasonable assumption.

Cheap knockoff
 

Not even close to a Cinelli. Even the counterfeit decals are cheap looking by comparison. Probably a Hrinkow, or some other eastern European marque. The workmanship, the lugs, and the shell show that it is nowhere near a Cinelli.

Fake Fake Fake
 

That is a Hrinkow. They were made in Hungary and they are cheaply put together. It's not Columbus or Dedacciai or Oria tubing, it's just cheap knockoff tubing from China or Eastern Europe. Those aren't even decals, they're just stickers. DId you at any time look at this and think it was a Cinelli? Give your head a shake.

Hahaha - That guy's right, it is a Hrinkow. Hrinkow was the biggest maker of bikes that people try to pass off as Gilco or Deda 'crimped' tubes - probably why RG says more than one bike on here is Hrinkow. I know that I've seen other Hrinkow knockoff Olmos, Colnagos, Cinellis on here. They might be Austrian, but the tubes are Taiwan or China for sure; and they did get bikes made in Hungary cause it's cheaper. Even the 'pantograph' on the fork is clearly just some homemade Dremel job. Hope you didn't pay much!

Do your own research. If you think it's a Cinelli, then I know a Nigerian prince with an opportunity for you. LOLOLOLOLOL dum-dum.

Nobody thinks it's a Cinelli apart from the OP many years ago and even they came to realise it wasn't. Anyway, looking forward to hearing why you think it's a Hrinkow.

It could have been Fred Cinelli.

This is a fascinating thread.

First, we have the snooty expert who makes a newbie mistake.
Then we have the fantastic detective work of the unbelievably knowledgeable BikeForums crew (I bow down before you).
Finally, a bunch of low-count posters name-drop the most fascinatingly bizarre bicycle company name ever invented as the true manufacturer, negating everything said up to now - yet, provide not a shred of evidence to back up this claim.

I did a bit of Google-fu and brought up a whole bunch of nondescript modern MTB's and road bikes under the Hrinkow brand, all in a bright green that has all the decorum of a 20-foot-tall logo written entirely in Comic Sans MS. I can't find diddly about a single lugged frame out of them - other than, of course, this post of 25% frustration, 25% win, 25% eye rolling, and 25% Pure WTF™.

Hrinkow,
Hrinkow,
Hrinkow,
Hrinkow.

It sounds like a Siberian name for a special-needs guide animal that helps someone hard of hearing and provides milk. A "hr'in kow."

Or Daniela Bianchi.

Or Cinelli Carting Co., providing all times of Rubbish Removal Services in the NYC Metropolitan Area. http://cinellicarting.com/. Maybe they picked up all that fake Gilco from someone who rejected all that "dented tubing."

-Kurt