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Help IDing this Frameset/lugs. Olmo?
Picked up this frameset that has been subjected to a low quality respray and was wondering if anyone could id the builder or at least the type of lugs used. Thanks in advance!
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Do not think Olmo. Lugset is a pattern somewhat similar to the Agrati "AM" used extensively by Olmo and many other Italian makers; but is not the same. Crown is a BOCAMA pattern, also distributed by RonKit and Bertin as Milremo brand. Lugs and seat stay cap look more like a Brit bike. Are there markings on the right side of the seat tube just below the seat lug? Headset looks like it could be a Brampton. Seat binder looks like one frequently employed in the UK. It is not a Gripfast however. Might be a Brampton. Have you made a threading check as yet so as to rule in/out possible nationalities? A look at the ends, both bow and stern, would likely assist the assembled experts... Currently leaning toward a UK origin. ----- |
A Carlton Flyer, perhaps? Carltons in the 68 - 72 period had up to 7 digit long serials and this one has 6. The lugs, crown and flat plate stay cap look right. Possibly a Holdsworth from the same period.
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Our Jim is on to something como per normale! :thumb: Here is the lug set on 3alarmer's newly arrived 1967 Carlton Competition. On his frame they have a triangular cutout on the socket for the down and the top tubes. Seat stay caps are semi-wraparound rather than the flat type we have on this frame. http://m.bikeforums.net/attachment.p...1&d=1508258187 http://m.bikeforums.net/attachment.p...1&d=1508258187 http://m.bikeforums.net/attachment.p...1&d=1508258187 http://m.bikeforums.net/attachment.p...1&d=1508258328 http://m.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=1125270 ----- |
Sorry I missed the updates, thanks for the help so far.
Definitely not Italian, as once I cleaned it off and stripped it down, it has Suntour dropouts and a British thread BB Did Carlton ever use Japanese frame parts? |
Look like Hayden birdsmouth or some such? Like used on the early Pro's. ;)
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Originally Posted by Brewsmith
(Post 19965848)
Sorry I missed the updates, thanks for the help so far.
Definitely not Italian, as once I cleaned it off and stripped it down, it has Suntour dropouts and a British thread BB Did Carlton ever use Japanese frame parts? Thank you for this new information. :) wrt the Maeda bits - do the collars an cuffs match? ----- |
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