Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

C&V compatible looks in a dyno light?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

C&V compatible looks in a dyno light?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-20-17, 10:46 PM
  #26  
jyl
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639

Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997

Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times in 31 Posts
Originally Posted by steelbikeguy
here's the schematic....


and a photo of the circuit board(s)


this is my Powers bike with LED standlight (circa 2000 or somewhat later)
The standlight is below the headlight... about the same height as the canti brakes. It mounts to a boss on the fork.


and a close-up shot with standlight near the top



as the schematic indicates, although perhaps not clearly, there are two banks of LEDs wired in parallel, and this parallel bank of LEDs is wired in series with the dynamo and headlight.

One bank of parallel LEDs serves as the taillight, while the other functions as a marker light at the front. Electrically, the yellow LEDs of the marker light create a voltage drop of about 1.5 volts (IIRC), which is used to charge the nicad AA cell.
The bank of red LEDs does make a nice tail light, but could be replaced with a simple power diode (either silicon or schottky) if the tail light isn't desired.

These were designed for use with a headlight that uses 0.5A. The Reflectalight bulb draws quite a bit less, I think. The reduced current through the yellow LEDs will mean that less voltage is developed across the LEDs, which will reduce the charge voltage of the nicad. There are ways to address this...

I've updated the headlight on this bike in the last 3 years or so, changing a fair bit, but still using the boost circuit. The taillight uses the same standlight circuit, and has been running for 10 years or so. The nicad survives this long because it is charged quite gently, but I'm impressed that I've gotten this long of a life from it.

Steve in Peoria
Thank you! This is what I need.
jyl is offline  
Old 11-21-17, 02:09 PM
  #27  
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,503

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7348 Post(s)
Liked 2,470 Times in 1,435 Posts
Originally Posted by nlerner
I still have my Belt Beacon! I think I bought it around 1982. Just pop a new 9-volt battery in and it keeps on flashing.
I threw mine out a year or two ago. I hadn't used it since it was new.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 11-21-17, 02:55 PM
  #28  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,158
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3810 Post(s)
Liked 6,702 Times in 2,612 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider
I threw mine out a year or two ago. I hadn't used it since it was new.
You're giving hoarders a bad name.
nlerner is offline  
Old 11-21-17, 05:17 PM
  #29  
Senior Member
 
steelbikeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 4,476
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1829 Post(s)
Liked 3,376 Times in 1,580 Posts
Originally Posted by nlerner
You're giving hoarders a bad name.
well, now I just feel a bit bad for still having mine.
I did use it for a number of years, though.

I pulled out recently to reverse engineer it, just for fun.




I ended up playing with the circuit and coming up with a low power flasher that runs from two AAAA alkaline cells (these are the cells found in a 9V battery)
The LED is a 5mm red LED, just to give a sense of scale.




Steve in Peoria (yes, I'm easily amused!)
steelbikeguy is offline  
Old 11-21-17, 07:21 PM
  #30  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,158
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3810 Post(s)
Liked 6,702 Times in 2,612 Posts
Nice work, Steve! The one mod I did to my Belt Beacon was to mount it to the rear of a Blackburn rack. To do that, I pulled out the bolt that attaches the belt bracket and essentially just drove in a wood screw of some sort. Never did fit very securely.
nlerner is offline  
Old 11-22-17, 08:33 AM
  #31  
Senior Member
 
steelbikeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 4,476
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1829 Post(s)
Liked 3,376 Times in 1,580 Posts
Originally Posted by nlerner
Nice work, Steve! The one mod I did to my Belt Beacon was to mount it to the rear of a Blackburn rack. To do that, I pulled out the bolt that attaches the belt bracket and essentially just drove in a wood screw of some sort. Never did fit very securely.
The Belt Beacon seems pretty crude by today's standards, but back in the late 70's, it was quite cutting edge! Was there any other light that used electronics? I had a Wonder battery headlight (not too impressive) and a little Jos block dynamo, which was "functional". The Belt Beacon was light and reasonably visible. The belt clip was very useful for me as a college student.

Technology has marched forward, and even the crappiest LED taillight would be an improvement over the Belt Beacon. Still, I haven't had the heart to send mine to the landfill (minus the circuit board with the lead/tin solder). If the L' Eroica rides ever offer a night ride, I'll be all set with vintage lighting!

Steve in Peoria
steelbikeguy is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Louder
Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets
7
05-11-15 08:44 AM
TromboneAl
Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets
36
09-29-13 11:53 AM
moleman76
Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets
10
05-28-13 02:31 AM
Jeff Wills
Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets
7
10-09-10 12:52 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.