Campagnolo Bike
01-16-18, 08:44 PM
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Campagnolo Bike
Just saw this ad and wondering if anyone has heard of a Campagnolo bike. The seller claims he bought it in 1969 and that Campy built bikes for two years during 1963 and 1964.
I have attached the pictures that the seller posted.
Thank you,
Jim H
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I have attached the pictures that the seller posted.
Thank you,
Jim H
Las Vegas, NV
01-16-18, 09:49 PM
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Back in the 1970's I had a friend who was a bike rebuilder (flipper on modern parlance). He had taken in two of these and I had never heard of them previously. He showed me one which was in original finish and had a large script "Campagnolo" transfer on the downtube. Transfers are much larger than the small ones we are all familiar with which are used to indicate a Campagnolo equipped bicycle. Frame appeared to date from the 1960's which would agree with the above mentioned dates.
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Back in the 1970's I had a friend who was a bike rebuilder (flipper on modern parlance). He had taken in two of these and I had never heard of them previously. He showed me one which was in original finish and had a large script "Campagnolo" transfer on the downtube. Transfers are much larger than the small ones we are all familiar with which are used to indicate a Campagnolo equipped bicycle. Frame appeared to date from the 1960's which would agree with the above mentioned dates.
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01-17-18, 03:18 AM
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All of the parts were made by Campagnolo, including the rear frame dropouts. The decals say nothing about origin of the frame.
01-17-18, 07:47 AM
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The level of finish work on the fork crown doesn't seem to match that of the head lugs. Possibly a replacement?
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Back in the 1970's I had a friend who was a bike rebuilder (flipper on modern parlance). He had taken in two of these and I had never heard of them previously. He showed me one which was in original finish and had a large script "Campagnolo" transfer on the downtube. Transfers are much larger than the small ones we are all familiar with which are used to indicate a Campagnolo equipped bicycle.
01-17-18, 09:34 AM
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The transfers seen were white script "Campagnolo" with black edges on a background of multicoloured stripes; possibly world racing stripes. There were no "burst" or "winged wheel" devices.
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01-17-18, 05:04 PM
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Philco brake caliper and Cyclo derailleur and shifter.
01-17-18, 05:29 PM
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The derailleur is junk, but the shift lever is kind of cool-looking. The brake calipers don't look like anything I would want to use, but I can be corrected by anyone with experience with these.
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01-17-18, 07:47 PM
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Yes, those parts were listed in the ad.
Thanks for all the input.
Jim H
Las Vegas, NV
Thanks for all the input.
Jim H
Las Vegas, NV
01-17-18, 07:54 PM
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Yeah - it looks like a throttle quadrant for a C&V motorboat. 
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01-18-18, 01:38 AM
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Precursor to Delta brakes, those are.....
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01-18-18, 11:55 AM
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I won't say "never," but I'd be very surprised if the frame was built by Campagnolo. Tullio Campagnolo and Cino Cinelli were good friends (Cino once lent Tullio money when Campy needed a cash infusion) and they both went to significant lengths not to step on each other's toes, product-wise. It wasn't 100% (Cinelli did sell hubs and pedals, which Campy also made and sold), but there is a reason why you don't see Cinelli derailleurs and you don't see Campagnolo stems (or frames).
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No mention of a frame being made in the Campagnolo time line, at Velo-Retro. There was a recent discussion about this topic, consensus of the knowledgeable members, some of which are replying above, was that Campagnolo never made a frame set. Should be interesting to see where this leads this go around.
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01-18-18, 02:58 PM
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Campagnolo made frame parts, but an individual builder can buy them, I did. for my DIY frame.
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The Cyclo derailleur and shifter are pretty cool kit, and were popular for many years (1930 into the 70's). When set up correctly they work very nicely, and smoothly-- two cables, so no spring to fight against. But you're missing a lot of parts; the cables in particular are hard to find.
The Philco brake is on my experience a pretty terrible brake. Hard to adjust; no quick release; bad ergonomics.
Both were made in the early 30's, but we're still available many years later.
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