Rivendell needs help.
#201
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Good for them. I've always found Grant to be the most endearing member of the bicycle industry and his transparency and direct communication style is a big part of that.
#202
I wish them luck
I think they would have done well to buy out a small company like Bruce Gordon and build up domestic production, although perhaps there are benefits of starting with new equipment.
I think they would have done well to buy out a small company like Bruce Gordon and build up domestic production, although perhaps there are benefits of starting with new equipment.
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I got the email, too. 
A good example of why doing your little bit to save a company like Rivendell is a little bit more than just grudgingly offering up a no-interest loan to some slacker who's on the way to bankruptcy anyway.
The Rivraffle pot is up to $90, now. Feel free to chip in anytime up 'til 9am Pacific Time, Thursday 15 March, then I'll cut it off for the drawing.
A good example of why doing your little bit to save a company like Rivendell is a little bit more than just grudgingly offering up a no-interest loan to some slacker who's on the way to bankruptcy anyway.
The Rivraffle pot is up to $90, now. Feel free to chip in anytime up 'til 9am Pacific Time, Thursday 15 March, then I'll cut it off for the drawing.
I wouldn't mind having a Riv frame, but the reality of bikes I can ride without worrying about them in a rack downtown wins out. I've bought small stuff from them, including "Just Ride", Grant's book. One I encourage people to read, but don't loan out, because I want mine back......
Did the Riv-Like build on a Rockhopper Comp. North Road bars, Ergo grips wrapped with cloth tape, SPD/flat pedals etc. Very happy with it. I'm in about $200 total. And, it's good enough....
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Catalogs are fun to look at but the internets can has all the catalogs and more, even VHS cassette tapes that play through tubes and pocket sized Coleco-vision on your portable computer telephone. If only someone had told Grant this he might not have been in such dire straits. They even have a Portable Computer Telephone for just reading books like say Lord of the Rings or the RBW Catalog ; )
Glad they didn't sink but hopefully they figure out this business thing so they stay more viable.
Glad they didn't sink but hopefully they figure out this business thing so they stay more viable.
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Sometimes good things happen. I'm happy.
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Interesting to note that some shipments were late and some early. The early are an interesting look into the world of manufacturing in Asia. That part of the bicycle supply chain is hurting too obviously.
#207
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From an accounting perspective, they have now incurred $215,000 in liabilities in order to raise $215,000 in cash. Well worth it, and I'm glad it seems to have worked.
If your goal was to donate to the cause rather than actually buying an item later at a discount, let them know and let them destroy your code or whatever they gave you. This way they can take the liability off the books. It would get transferred to Owner Equity or Retained Earnings, depending on their accounting structure.
If your goal was to donate to the cause rather than actually buying an item later at a discount, let them know and let them destroy your code or whatever they gave you. This way they can take the liability off the books. It would get transferred to Owner Equity or Retained Earnings, depending on their accounting structure.
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I just had to say: In before ten!
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The Rivraffle pot is up to $130, including one playa donating a Hail Mary and declining to have his name in the hat. We've got a good gang, here.
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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
#211
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From an accounting perspective, they have now incurred $215,000 in liabilities in order to raise $215,000 in cash. Well worth it, and I'm glad it seems to have worked.
If your goal was to donate to the cause rather than actually buying an item later at a discount, let them know and let them destroy your code or whatever they gave you. This way they can take the liability off the books. It would get transferred to Owner Equity or Retained Earnings, depending on their accounting structure.
If your goal was to donate to the cause rather than actually buying an item later at a discount, let them know and let them destroy your code or whatever they gave you. This way they can take the liability off the books. It would get transferred to Owner Equity or Retained Earnings, depending on their accounting structure.
#213
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This is because vendors or stores were issuing gift cards that were good for one year (or less) or started charging "fees" on the cards so that the card would be useless over time. They got the cash and left the holder of the card high and dry.
The liability has to stay on the books forever, sort of. As the liability ages (just like Account Receivables), it gets less "valuable" and collectible. You can write off AR at a specific rate, but I don't remember the rules for "writing off" liabilities, if they exist at all.
The liability has to stay on the books forever, sort of. As the liability ages (just like Account Receivables), it gets less "valuable" and collectible. You can write off AR at a specific rate, but I don't remember the rules for "writing off" liabilities, if they exist at all.
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Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.
The liability has to stay on the books forever, sort of. As the liability ages (just like Account Receivables), it gets less "valuable" and collectible. You can write off AR at a specific rate, but I don't remember the rules for "writing off" liabilities, if they exist at all.
In practice, the card issuer may (or may not) actually honor the face value even if it has aged into - legally - less than face value.
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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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Im a Rivendell supporter and owner of a Resurrectio single speed bike using an 85 schwinn traveler frame. Its a great trail bike. Im glad to see them surviving and hope they can thrive. Love to see nice steel frames and classic steel resurrections !
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#216
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But we're not quite to ten pages, a requirement for any G.P. thread...
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Took a look at their website. Some lovely components for sale, ones I certainly appreciate that they are selling those. Too bad I have spare parts and am hooked on the drug that is local bikes shops with used parts for sale...
/one post closer to ten
/one post closer to ten
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If I can donate my cash to keep Riv afloat, I can certainly donate one post to the equally noble cause of securing Grant’s narrative legacy.
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