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seedsbelize 03-23-18 06:11 AM

Happier?
 
Would I be happier with NOS 105 aero levers for $50, or new R400s for $30? For the 78 Trek 930 frame set I recently purchased.

thumpism 03-23-18 06:25 AM

One of each. Asymmetry is the new black.

rccardr 03-23-18 07:02 AM

Or new Golden Arrow/1050 non-aero levers: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Shimano...53.m1438.l2649

RobbieTunes 03-23-18 07:05 AM

R400's. They match any outfit.

thinktubes 03-23-18 07:15 AM

^^^^^^^^^
This.

rhm 03-23-18 08:42 AM

What level NOS 105's are we talking about here? I've used the 8 speed ones and the 9 speed ones. They are pretty different. I don't think I'll use the 8 speed ones again; they hurt my hands on long rides. I don't remember the 9 speed ones well enough to compare; but they are different.

Ex Pres 03-23-18 09:06 AM

If they are the BL-1051 series, stay away. The hoods will be near impossible to find, should you need one.

nlerner 03-23-18 09:11 AM

This is C&V. You need to buy both and then buy another frameset for the extra pair.

oddjob2 03-23-18 09:29 AM

Nothing special about the 105 levers, so save yourself $20.

ThermionicScott 03-23-18 09:49 AM

If the R400s are anything like my RX100 levers (and they look nearly identical), they ought to be pretty comfy compared to older stuff.

CroMo Mike 03-23-18 10:26 AM

Campy Super Record, NOS, drilled, with NOS hoods. eBay, $399.

seedsbelize 03-23-18 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 20240907)
What level NOS 105's are we talking about here? I've used the 8 speed ones and the 9 speed ones. They are pretty different. I don't think I'll use the 8 speed ones again; they hurt my hands on long rides. I don't remember the 9 speed ones well enough to compare; but they are different.

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seedsbelize 03-23-18 06:52 PM

Thanks for the replies.

RiddleOfSteel 03-24-18 01:19 AM

The R400 levers are, IIRC, modeled on the 6403 brake lever body (Shimano 600 level, Super SLR tech/geometry). They are really nice. I may not be a fan of the grey trim ring (prefer all black like the R600 levers), but they look good, are comfortable (I put a piece of bar tape on each side under the hoods to bulk it up slightly, helps a lot), and work well. Hoods for 1051 levers will be hard to come by, but it takes years to wear a hood out. They'll be all black with a silver blade. They'll look more 'period correct' but the body is narrower, so comfort will depend on how you set up your bikes. I will always suggest the discontinued Tektro R200 lever. Super comfortable, round, wide lever body (Campy 9/10s Ergo shape). Black with silver blade, good lever action, with a Campy-like brake cable release/slack feature for tire removal.

jimmuller 03-24-18 05:23 AM

You'd be $20 happier with the R400's.

RobbieTunes 03-24-18 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 20242464)
You'd be $20 happier with the R400's.

or blondes, so I have been told.

ThermionicScott 03-24-18 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 20242039)

Are these it? Found More! Shimano 105 Aero SLR brake lever pair grey handles black hoods NOS

seedsbelize 03-24-18 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 20243091)

Yes

seedsbelize 03-25-18 07:26 AM

I found a pair f 600 EX non-aero levers here in the bin, but I really prefer aero.

Scottybigs 03-25-18 09:15 AM

I went out of my way and bought a bruised pair of Shimano 600 aero levers to match my groupset for $40. Rode them for a season, didn't find them all that great, then swapped out to more modern Cane Creek SCR-5's (which are fantastic).

I wish I had my $40 back.

The Golden Boy 03-25-18 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 20244058)
I found a pair f 600 EX non-aero levers here in the bin, but I really prefer aero.

Hey Jerry-

IMO- a 70s bike looks right with non-aero levers. (Preferably dual slotted :D)

If you want to go with aero levers- they're not going to be "period correct" in any way- I wouldn't go with something that's something sorta like what you want because it's sorta old.

Go with the levers you like that you think will go best with the bike/components. IMO- the aforementioned Cane Creek SCR-5 levers with gum hoods look pretty slick.

Otherwise out of your 3 choices you brought up- the R400.

seedsbelize 03-25-18 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by The Golden Boy (Post 20244308)
Hey Jerry-

IMO- a 70s bike looks right with non-aero levers. (Preferably dual slotted :D)

If you want to go with aero levers- they're not going to be "period correct" in any way- I wouldn't go with something that's something sorta like what you want because it's sorta old.

Go with the levers you like that you think will go best with the bike/components. IMO- the aforementioned Cane Creek SCR-5 levers with gum hoods look pretty slick.

Otherwise out of your 3 choices you brought up- the R400.

I appreciate your insights, but I am a bit of a frankenbike purist. I really don't care for non-aero levers anymore. What I look for in a bike is a quality ride, and I really don't care about anything else (except price, of course). The shifters I'm gonna use came off an 87 Prelude, probably Tektro calipers, Fujita Belt saddle, biopace crankset. I like to use what I have around. And frankly, in my market, nobody would know or care about period correct. I don't wish to intentionally offend sensibilities; I'm just a bird of a different color. And I enjoy vintage bikes.

top506 03-25-18 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 20242553)
or blondes, so I have been told.

Never worked for me.
The R400 levers do, though.

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DIMcyclist 03-26-18 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 20240986)
This is C&V. You need to buy both and then buy another frameset for the extra pair.

:roflmao2: +1!

DiegoFrogs 03-26-18 12:10 PM

I also love the cane creek levers. You get the choice of gum or black hoods, and I have them with both black and silver blades. Lots of choice.


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