Happier?
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Happier?
Would I be happier with NOS 105 aero levers for $50, or new R400s for $30? For the 78 Trek 930 frame set I recently purchased.
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One of each. Asymmetry is the new black.
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Or new Golden Arrow/1050 non-aero levers: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Shimano...53.m1438.l2649
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What level NOS 105's are we talking about here? I've used the 8 speed ones and the 9 speed ones. They are pretty different. I don't think I'll use the 8 speed ones again; they hurt my hands on long rides. I don't remember the 9 speed ones well enough to compare; but they are different.
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If the R400s are anything like my RX100 levers (and they look nearly identical), they ought to be pretty comfy compared to older stuff.
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What level NOS 105's are we talking about here? I've used the 8 speed ones and the 9 speed ones. They are pretty different. I don't think I'll use the 8 speed ones again; they hurt my hands on long rides. I don't remember the 9 speed ones well enough to compare; but they are different.
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The R400 levers are, IIRC, modeled on the 6403 brake lever body (Shimano 600 level, Super SLR tech/geometry). They are really nice. I may not be a fan of the grey trim ring (prefer all black like the R600 levers), but they look good, are comfortable (I put a piece of bar tape on each side under the hoods to bulk it up slightly, helps a lot), and work well. Hoods for 1051 levers will be hard to come by, but it takes years to wear a hood out. They'll be all black with a silver blade. They'll look more 'period correct' but the body is narrower, so comfort will depend on how you set up your bikes. I will always suggest the discontinued Tektro R200 lever. Super comfortable, round, wide lever body (Campy 9/10s Ergo shape). Black with silver blade, good lever action, with a Campy-like brake cable release/slack feature for tire removal.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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You'd be $20 happier with the R400's.
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I found a pair f 600 EX non-aero levers here in the bin, but I really prefer aero.
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I went out of my way and bought a bruised pair of Shimano 600 aero levers to match my groupset for $40. Rode them for a season, didn't find them all that great, then swapped out to more modern Cane Creek SCR-5's (which are fantastic).
I wish I had my $40 back.
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IMO- a 70s bike looks right with non-aero levers. (Preferably dual slotted
) If you want to go with aero levers- they're not going to be "period correct" in any way- I wouldn't go with something that's something sorta like what you want because it's sorta old.
Go with the levers you like that you think will go best with the bike/components. IMO- the aforementioned Cane Creek SCR-5 levers with gum hoods look pretty slick.
Otherwise out of your 3 choices you brought up- the R400.
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Hey Jerry-
IMO- a 70s bike looks right with non-aero levers. (Preferably dual slotted
)
If you want to go with aero levers- they're not going to be "period correct" in any way- I wouldn't go with something that's something sorta like what you want because it's sorta old.
Go with the levers you like that you think will go best with the bike/components. IMO- the aforementioned Cane Creek SCR-5 levers with gum hoods look pretty slick.
Otherwise out of your 3 choices you brought up- the R400.
IMO- a 70s bike looks right with non-aero levers. (Preferably dual slotted
) If you want to go with aero levers- they're not going to be "period correct" in any way- I wouldn't go with something that's something sorta like what you want because it's sorta old.
Go with the levers you like that you think will go best with the bike/components. IMO- the aforementioned Cane Creek SCR-5 levers with gum hoods look pretty slick.
Otherwise out of your 3 choices you brought up- the R400.
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Never worked for me.
The R400 levers do, though.
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The R400 levers do, though.
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I also love the cane creek levers. You get the choice of gum or black hoods, and I have them with both black and silver blades. Lots of choice.







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