Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Happier?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-23-18 | 06:11 AM
  #1  
seedsbelize's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,315
Likes: 903
From: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México

Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Happier?

Would I be happier with NOS 105 aero levers for $50, or new R400s for $30? For the 78 Trek 930 frame set I recently purchased.
seedsbelize is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 06:25 AM
  #2  
thumpism's Avatar
Bikes are okay, I guess.
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 8,006
Likes: 3,773
From: Richmond, Virginia

Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT, Jeunet mixte

One of each. Asymmetry is the new black.
thumpism is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 07:02 AM
  #3  
rccardr's Avatar
aka: Dr. Cannondale
Titanium Club Membership
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Titanium
15 Anniversary
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,659
Likes: 6,312
Or new Golden Arrow/1050 non-aero levers: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Shimano...53.m1438.l2649
__________________
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
rccardr is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 07:05 AM
  #4  
Banned.
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Likes: 1,462
R400's. They match any outfit.
RobbieTunes is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 07:15 AM
  #5  
thinktubes's Avatar
weapons-grade bolognium
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,607
Likes: 3,307
From: Across the street from Chicago

Bikes: Battaglin Cromor, Ciocc Designer 84, Schwinn Superior 1981

^^^^^^^^^
This.
thinktubes is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 08:42 AM
  #6  
rhm's Avatar
rhm
multimodal commuter
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 19,810
Likes: 597
From: NJ, NYC, LI

Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...

What level NOS 105's are we talking about here? I've used the 8 speed ones and the 9 speed ones. They are pretty different. I don't think I'll use the 8 speed ones again; they hurt my hands on long rides. I don't remember the 9 speed ones well enough to compare; but they are different.
__________________
www.rhmsaddles.com.
rhm is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 09:06 AM
  #7  
Ex Pres's Avatar
Cat 6
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,522
Likes: 236
From: Mountain Brook, AL
If they are the BL-1051 series, stay away. The hoods will be near impossible to find, should you need one.
Ex Pres is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 09:11 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Titanium
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 18,760
Likes: 11,487
This is C&V. You need to buy both and then buy another frameset for the extra pair.
nlerner is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 09:29 AM
  #9  
oddjob2's Avatar
Still learning
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 11,529
Likes: 87
From: North of Canada, Adirondacks

Bikes: Still a garage full

Nothing special about the 105 levers, so save yourself $20.
oddjob2 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 09:49 AM
  #10  
ThermionicScott's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

If the R400s are anything like my RX100 levers (and they look nearly identical), they ought to be pretty comfy compared to older stuff.
ThermionicScott is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 10:26 AM
  #11  
CroMo Mike's Avatar
All Campy All The Time
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,432
Likes: 124
From: Richmond, Virginia

Bikes: Listed in my signature.

Campy Super Record, NOS, drilled, with NOS hoods. eBay, $399.
CroMo Mike is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 06:51 PM
  #12  
seedsbelize's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,315
Likes: 903
From: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México

Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Originally Posted by rhm
What level NOS 105's are we talking about here? I've used the 8 speed ones and the 9 speed ones. They are pretty different. I don't think I'll use the 8 speed ones again; they hurt my hands on long rides. I don't remember the 9 speed ones well enough to compare; but they are different.
Shopping Cart Empty
seedsbelize is offline  
Reply
Old 03-23-18 | 06:52 PM
  #13  
seedsbelize's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,315
Likes: 903
From: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México

Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Thanks for the replies.
seedsbelize is offline  
Reply
Old 03-24-18 | 01:19 AM
  #14  
RiddleOfSteel's Avatar
Master Parts Rearranger
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,842
Likes: 2,788
From: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR

Bikes: 1987 Woodrup Competition - 2025 Trek Checkpoint SL 6 Gen 3 - 1987 Lotus Legend - 2024 Trek Emonda ALR Rim Brake - 1980 Trek 510 - 1988 Cannondale SR500 - 1985 Trek 670 - 1982 Trek 730

The R400 levers are, IIRC, modeled on the 6403 brake lever body (Shimano 600 level, Super SLR tech/geometry). They are really nice. I may not be a fan of the grey trim ring (prefer all black like the R600 levers), but they look good, are comfortable (I put a piece of bar tape on each side under the hoods to bulk it up slightly, helps a lot), and work well. Hoods for 1051 levers will be hard to come by, but it takes years to wear a hood out. They'll be all black with a silver blade. They'll look more 'period correct' but the body is narrower, so comfort will depend on how you set up your bikes. I will always suggest the discontinued Tektro R200 lever. Super comfortable, round, wide lever body (Campy 9/10s Ergo shape). Black with silver blade, good lever action, with a Campy-like brake cable release/slack feature for tire removal.
RiddleOfSteel is offline  
Reply
Old 03-24-18 | 05:23 AM
  #15  
jimmuller's Avatar
What??? Only 2 wheels?
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 13,496
Likes: 940
From: Boston-ish, MA

Bikes: 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10

You'd be $20 happier with the R400's.
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
jimmuller is offline  
Reply
Old 03-24-18 | 07:18 AM
  #16  
Banned.
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Likes: 1,462
Originally Posted by jimmuller
You'd be $20 happier with the R400's.
or blondes, so I have been told.
RobbieTunes is offline  
Reply
Old 03-24-18 | 01:20 PM
  #17  
ThermionicScott's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Are these it? Found More! Shimano 105 Aero SLR brake lever pair grey handles black hoods NOS
ThermionicScott is offline  
Reply
Old 03-24-18 | 09:04 PM
  #18  
seedsbelize's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,315
Likes: 903
From: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México

Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Yes
seedsbelize is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-18 | 07:26 AM
  #19  
seedsbelize's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,315
Likes: 903
From: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México

Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

I found a pair f 600 EX non-aero levers here in the bin, but I really prefer aero.
seedsbelize is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-18 | 09:15 AM
  #20  
Scottybigs's Avatar
Full Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 268
Likes: 8
From: Toronto

Bikes: Schwinn Voyageur SP | Sekine SHS-271 | Wabi Special

I went out of my way and bought a bruised pair of Shimano 600 aero levers to match my groupset for $40. Rode them for a season, didn't find them all that great, then swapped out to more modern Cane Creek SCR-5's (which are fantastic).

I wish I had my $40 back.
Scottybigs is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-18 | 10:17 AM
  #21  
The Golden Boy's Avatar
Extraordinary Magnitude
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 14,080
Likes: 2,134
From: Waukesha WI

Bikes: 1978 Trek TX700; 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400 Elance; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra; 1990 Miyata 1000LT

Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I found a pair f 600 EX non-aero levers here in the bin, but I really prefer aero.
Hey Jerry-

IMO- a 70s bike looks right with non-aero levers. (Preferably dual slotted )

If you want to go with aero levers- they're not going to be "period correct" in any way- I wouldn't go with something that's something sorta like what you want because it's sorta old.

Go with the levers you like that you think will go best with the bike/components. IMO- the aforementioned Cane Creek SCR-5 levers with gum hoods look pretty slick.

Otherwise out of your 3 choices you brought up- the R400.
__________________
*Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Person Of The Year" Award*

Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!

"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
The Golden Boy is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-18 | 03:57 PM
  #22  
seedsbelize's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,315
Likes: 903
From: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México

Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
Hey Jerry-

IMO- a 70s bike looks right with non-aero levers. (Preferably dual slotted )

If you want to go with aero levers- they're not going to be "period correct" in any way- I wouldn't go with something that's something sorta like what you want because it's sorta old.

Go with the levers you like that you think will go best with the bike/components. IMO- the aforementioned Cane Creek SCR-5 levers with gum hoods look pretty slick.

Otherwise out of your 3 choices you brought up- the R400.
I appreciate your insights, but I am a bit of a frankenbike purist. I really don't care for non-aero levers anymore. What I look for in a bike is a quality ride, and I really don't care about anything else (except price, of course). The shifters I'm gonna use came off an 87 Prelude, probably Tektro calipers, Fujita Belt saddle, biopace crankset. I like to use what I have around. And frankly, in my market, nobody would know or care about period correct. I don't wish to intentionally offend sensibilities; I'm just a bird of a different color. And I enjoy vintage bikes.
seedsbelize is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-18 | 04:26 PM
  #23  
top506's Avatar
Death fork? Naaaah!!
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,530
Likes: 945
From: The other Maine, north of RT 2

Bikes: Seriously downsizing.

Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
or blondes, so I have been told.
Never worked for me.
The R400 levers do, though.

Top
__________________
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.

(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
top506 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-26-18 | 11:49 AM
  #24  
No longer active
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,001
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by nlerner
This is C&V. You need to buy both and then buy another frameset for the extra pair.
+1!
DIMcyclist is offline  
Reply
Old 03-26-18 | 12:10 PM
  #25  
DiegoFrogs's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,584
Likes: 107
From: Scranton, PA, USA

Bikes: '77 Centurion "Pro Tour"; '67 Carlton "The Flyer"; 1984 Ross MTB (stored at parents' house)

I also love the cane creek levers. You get the choice of gum or black hoods, and I have them with both black and silver blades. Lots of choice.
DiegoFrogs is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.