1974 Atala Professional
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1974 Atala Professional
More photos here. 1974 Atala Professional https://imgur.com/gallery/map7Wp6
I am assuming 1974. Pat 73 Nuovo Record RD, serial number that starts with 74, CPSC front derailleur. Cinelli unicanitor, modified NR chainring spider, drop bolt brake, 531 tubes, forks, stays, overall a nice find. No chromed seat lug. 27" wheels clinchers may have been rebuilt on the high flange tipo hubs. 23" ct st 22" cc tt
What can you tell me about this bike?
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I do like them, but for me, there was always something just a little bit "off" with the ATALA bikes - they would always go cheap on something. It might be the brakes or the pedals or whatever but they never seemed to have a full Nuovo Record gruppo, even on their best bikes. I think it was Frejus that had this same "problem".
On that bike, I see Nuovo Tipo hubs instead of Nuovo Record hubs. Are the pedals Nuovo Record or some thing else?
I drove there once to the upper east side of Manhattan wanting to look them over and intending to buy one (I can't remember exactly where, perhaps Spanish Harlem?). I got all the way there but never went in and never bought one.
On that bike, I see Nuovo Tipo hubs instead of Nuovo Record hubs. Are the pedals Nuovo Record or some thing else?
I drove there once to the upper east side of Manhattan wanting to look them over and intending to buy one (I can't remember exactly where, perhaps Spanish Harlem?). I got all the way there but never went in and never bought one.
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I wonder about the lack of interest in these wonderful old road bicycles. They look great, ride great and seem to be well built. The one the OP presents is a great example of the brand.
I have owned two high end Atala bicycles.
One from the seventies which I foolishly sold years ago...
And the one I have now and am riding now...
I have owned two high end Atala bicycles.
One from the seventies which I foolishly sold years ago...
And the one I have now and am riding now...
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I do like them, but for me, there was always something just a little bit "off" with the ATALA bikes - they would always go cheap on something. It might be the brakes or the pedals or whatever but they never seemed to have a full Nuovo Record gruppo, even on their best bikes. I think it was Frejus that had this same "problem".
On that bike, I see Nuovo Tipo hubs instead of Nuovo Record hubs. Are the pedals Nuovo Record or some thing else?...
On that bike, I see Nuovo Tipo hubs instead of Nuovo Record hubs. Are the pedals Nuovo Record or some thing else?...
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Atala lost prestige in the wake of the boom. Part of the reason was that Atala was a full range brand. As the avid American cyclist became more educated, they increasingly focused on the high end Italian manufacturers, such as Colango, Guerrciotti and Pinarello. Full range brands were generally regarded as inferior, relative to the specialists.
Still, they could have flourished. Other Italian full range manufacturers, such a Bianchi, continued to grow in the USA market. However, Bianchi set up a separate USA based company and was smart to offload entry level models to Japan, who were the experts at providing value in lower end models. Bianchi also spent huge sums on USA marketing. Finally, Bianchi emphasized their Reparto Corse, a separate division dedicated to only to high end models which, in eyes of the consumer, made them superior to a typical full range manufacturer.
Conversely, Atala continued to be imported by an independent USA distributor and the entry level models continued to be built in Italy, These did not fare well against the Japanese offerings. Stuyvesant did not have as big a marketing budget as Bianchi and had to share what they did have with their other Italian brand, Bottecchia. With relatively little marketing, Atala's exposure and prestige continued to diminish in the USA. The final nail in the coffin was Greg Lemond winning the 1989 Tour de France on a Bottecchia. This cemented Bottecchia's dominance over Atala in the USA market.
None of this is meant to imply that Atala was a bad brand. They just weren't handled as well as they could have been and are therefore less popular. Of course, that means you have a more rare bicycle. Enjoy!
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I've gone through an Italian phase or two since I began researching about what I wanted to ride, and I never glanced at Atala twice... I think I just don't like the name. It sounds funky. Those bikes are surely pretty, of course!
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The ride report always talks more loudly than the comments, IMHO.
Give us feedback.
It needs 700c tubulars.
Give us feedback.
It needs 700c tubulars.
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Lot of the frame details look like my 73 Lygie.
My Lygie has the same crown, lugs and chrome to paint detail on the stays. Below is not my photo but will post more later after travels. Interested to hear more.
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I had an Atala Professional that I built up to stock with the exception of a nice NR wheelset laced to Mavic Module E rims. The ride felt sluggish.
When I threw a light fixed gear wheel set on it and stripped the Campy derailleurs off it the bike came alive. I ride enough fixed and geared bikes to know it was not just the pleasure of riding fixed... for some reason it was as if the frame woke up. I wish I could explain the what and why better, but compared to French or Japanese bikes of the same era I was not that impressed.
When I threw a light fixed gear wheel set on it and stripped the Campy derailleurs off it the bike came alive. I ride enough fixed and geared bikes to know it was not just the pleasure of riding fixed... for some reason it was as if the frame woke up. I wish I could explain the what and why better, but compared to French or Japanese bikes of the same era I was not that impressed.
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In early 70's Southern California Lygie and Atala appeared to be kissing cousins from a customer's perspective.
Had I ventured to the shop that sold them when I was bike shopping, I might have bought one. Good value for the price on the showroom floor. I Martin Imports was the shop that had them.
After I joined a club I noticed they were looked down upon. One feature that I was less than thrilled with after I became a paid mechanic was that many had bottom bracket shells that showed a massive transverse weld seam on the underside, expedient but not attractive. Seat stay attachment seemed to vary widely in appearance too.
Had I ventured to the shop that sold them when I was bike shopping, I might have bought one. Good value for the price on the showroom floor. I Martin Imports was the shop that had them.
After I joined a club I noticed they were looked down upon. One feature that I was less than thrilled with after I became a paid mechanic was that many had bottom bracket shells that showed a massive transverse weld seam on the underside, expedient but not attractive. Seat stay attachment seemed to vary widely in appearance too.
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These are the 'as found' photos. Obviously the bike will need stripping and a fair bit of work. The wheels are likely not original but probably an owner was tired of tubular tires and wanted clinchers, 27" fitting the frame. The frame is probably one size smaller than I would like. I have to make a decision to refurbish and try to ride or strip and find another frame or sell and continue the search.
I have this set without a bike. They still need some work but might be fun. I have great plans to finish them off this weekend. We shall see if that pans out. The tedious cleaning and steel wooling of spokes and brake track is finally done and now I just have to put them back together.
Record/Fiamme tubular wheel rescue
Record/Fiamme tubular wheel rescue
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The pedals appear to be the garden variety Nuovo Record. Other than the modified outer chainring and the wheels it is a full NR set.
I do like them, but for me, there was always something just a little bit "off" with the ATALA bikes - they would always go cheap on something. It might be the brakes or the pedals or whatever but they never seemed to have a full Nuovo Record gruppo, even on their best bikes. I think it was Frejus that had this same "problem".
On that bike, I see Nuovo Tipo hubs instead of Nuovo Record hubs. Are the pedals Nuovo Record or some thing else?
I drove there once to the upper east side of Manhattan wanting to look them over and intending to buy one (I can't remember exactly where, perhaps Spanish Harlem?). I got all the way there but never went in and never bought one.
On that bike, I see Nuovo Tipo hubs instead of Nuovo Record hubs. Are the pedals Nuovo Record or some thing else?
I drove there once to the upper east side of Manhattan wanting to look them over and intending to buy one (I can't remember exactly where, perhaps Spanish Harlem?). I got all the way there but never went in and never bought one.
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Atala and Lygie were both manufactured by the same company, Rizzato, after 1938. Atala had been formed by Angelo Gatti in 1908, before being sold to Steiner in 1919 and eventually being acquired by Cesare Rizzato in 1938. Lygie had been founded by Alfredo Sironi in 1905. It was sold to Ernesto Rolando in 1908 and was acquired by Rizzato in 1932. Rizzato had started out in 1921 with his Ceriz brand. Other brands that acquired by Rizzato include Maino and Dei, They also contract manufactured many brands including Stuyvesant's house brand, Corso.
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The bike disassembled without too much drama. There were four layers of incredibly sticky hockey tape under the blue wrap which took me nearly as long as the rest of the bike to undo. Going to give the frame a polish and wax and then decide what I want to do with it.
The pedals are Gran Sport, not NR. Otherwise not too many surprises. The hoods did disintegrate and tear while removing them but that is to be expected.
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