It is a new year and what is left on your C&V "Grail" list to acquire??
01-02-19, 06:11 AM
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I would like to add a Tesch. I passed on two in 2018 and only mildly regret it. Neither was just right. I also was runner up bidder on a Zunow, which I do regret not bidding more. That is still on my list. Otherwise, I am looking for American custom builders. I added an Appel and Osell in 2018 and would like to find other small US builders.
I shed a few bikes this year that I thought I would keep. I am prepping to sell one and maybe two more as I focus on what I want to keep. That is part of the fun of any hobby though.
I shed a few bikes this year that I thought I would keep. I am prepping to sell one and maybe two more as I focus on what I want to keep. That is part of the fun of any hobby though.
01-02-19, 07:24 AM
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I am now up to 10 bikes in my stable and I really need to be picky on what bike (which could be the last one) to add to my stable.
It would be Gitane's Columbus tube, Pro Replica from 83ish. I'm afraid I would be jello in a seller's hands as it could be the last C&V acquisition I would make, and also the fact that I had been searching for this bike for sooo many years now with no luck finding one in the condition and price I can accept.
Dabbled recently with the possibility if finally owning a Cinelli Supercorsa, but the planets did not line up for me at that time, so I had to let that one slip away from me.
So, I start this year with an open eye towards finally finding that Gitane Pro of my dreams, but sometimes I think that it could be good to have that "Moby Dick" bike out there, unacquired. To maybe keep the C&V juices flowing as like many say, the biggest fun in most things is the hunt for it(?).....
It would be Gitane's Columbus tube, Pro Replica from 83ish. I'm afraid I would be jello in a seller's hands as it could be the last C&V acquisition I would make, and also the fact that I had been searching for this bike for sooo many years now with no luck finding one in the condition and price I can accept.
Dabbled recently with the possibility if finally owning a Cinelli Supercorsa, but the planets did not line up for me at that time, so I had to let that one slip away from me.
So, I start this year with an open eye towards finally finding that Gitane Pro of my dreams, but sometimes I think that it could be good to have that "Moby Dick" bike out there, unacquired. To maybe keep the C&V juices flowing as like many say, the biggest fun in most things is the hunt for it(?).....
Builds to finish:
1. Build Meridian tandem - not C&V
2. Audax bike for Mrs. Road Fan
3. fenders on Mrs. Road Fan's Terry Cote de Donana, also a compact double 2x11
4. fenders on Mrs. Road Fan's Georgena Terry Classic; urban racing bike.
Grail-ish:
1. The Rudge (1952)
2. The UO-8 (1970 or so)
3. Masi Gran Criterium (have one but it's not a good fit) 1980 or earlier
4. Raleigh Intermational, 1969 to 71, old geometry.
5. Peugeot PX-10(E?), 1967, old geometry
01-02-19, 07:25 AM
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I believe I saw it was March this year. I need to visit the swap again. Been way too long.
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I would like to add a Tesch. I passed on two in 2018 and only mildly regret it. Neither was just right. I also was runner up bidder on a Zunow, which I do regret not bidding more. That is still on my list. Otherwise, I am looking for American custom builders. I added an Appel and Osell in 2018 and would like to find other small US builders.
I shed a few bikes this year that I thought I would keep. I am prepping to sell one and maybe two more as I focus on what I want to keep. That is part of the fun of any hobby though.
I shed a few bikes this year that I thought I would keep. I am prepping to sell one and maybe two more as I focus on what I want to keep. That is part of the fun of any hobby though.
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01-02-19, 08:49 AM
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Nothing new to acquire. Mainly because I've got two frames that have been hanging on the barn wall since 2015 that I've yet to get around to building, and at least one of them is going to get done this year. One is another mid-80's Rossin (my third), and this one is finally going to be built period correct Campagnolo. The other is a completely restored 1979 PX-10 that is scheduled to be rebuilt to period original.
OK, acquisitions? Yeah . . . . . . . one for the silliness. I've been noticing a few aluminum framed modern Rossins on eBay. I'd like to pick one up, add a carbon fork, then swap over all the parts on my early 90's Diamondback to it. If I'm going to ride something modern, I'd rather have it say Rossin than some other brand.
And there's the 40's Rollfast girls 'middleweight' (hell, heavyweight, it's using the 26x2.125 tires) I'm half done on. Not sure if it's pre- or post-WWII. I've got everything that's cleanable up to patinaed spec, now the rear rim, front fender and rear carrier have to be sandblasted and powdercoated. Way too rusted to save the finish.
OK, acquisitions? Yeah . . . . . . . one for the silliness. I've been noticing a few aluminum framed modern Rossins on eBay. I'd like to pick one up, add a carbon fork, then swap over all the parts on my early 90's Diamondback to it. If I'm going to ride something modern, I'd rather have it say Rossin than some other brand.
And there's the 40's Rollfast girls 'middleweight' (hell, heavyweight, it's using the 26x2.125 tires) I'm half done on. Not sure if it's pre- or post-WWII. I've got everything that's cleanable up to patinaed spec, now the rear rim, front fender and rear carrier have to be sandblasted and powdercoated. Way too rusted to save the finish.
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01-02-19, 08:51 AM
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The John Howard is too small for me. I am partial the Hwy 101 and the pre-Hwy 101 Tesch bikes. I remember reading a Tesch article in Bicycling Magazine in the late 1980s. I've wanted one since.
01-02-19, 09:00 AM
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01-02-19, 09:04 AM
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Translation: Something is definitely coming home from Westminster. Happily, I'll be around to cover the table while you're out dealing. And Maggie will be there to back both of us.
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01-02-19, 09:06 AM
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I think I'll start the betting pool as to what date that resolution dies. Anyone interested?
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01-02-19, 09:53 AM
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01-02-19, 10:02 AM
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Nothing particular on my "grail list", but I have three projects to complete so far:
- 1976 Motobecane Grand Jubile frameset (on it's way from Dallas at the moment)
-1981 Trek 716 dialed for long-distance efforts.
1) I'm thinking of bar-end shifters, either Suntour Barcons or maybe some pod mounts for a set of Huret rachets from a 1986 Schwinn Passage I picked up
2) Different handlebar shape, I really like the Nitto B132 that I have on my Velo Orange
3) 650bx38 wheel/tire combo
4) Considering adding 10-15mm more rake to the fork, since I really love running a handlebar bag and would want some lighter steering. Will likely have this done at Yellow Jersey in WI.
5) While the nice folks are bending my fork, I'm also considering having two more sets of water bottle bosses added, and a fresh respray of paint. It's pretty rough as-is right now
- Cull the fleet back down to 4-5. The Motobecane will bring the number of complete bikes up to 6, and I frankly just don't have room. The hard part, however will be deciding which will go. The short list only includes one: the aforementioned Passage, but that's mostly because I already have a cantilever-brake touring bike. Admittedly, it's not quite as cool as the Passage would be, but it is complete (and paid for
), so as far as deciding which touring bike to keep - the one I can ride right now, or the one that would need $400 to get rolling in proper touring trim, the choice is pretty easy! Plus, the fork was bent, so it's not like it was a cherry anyways.
- 1976 Motobecane Grand Jubile frameset (on it's way from Dallas at the moment)
-1981 Trek 716 dialed for long-distance efforts.
1) I'm thinking of bar-end shifters, either Suntour Barcons or maybe some pod mounts for a set of Huret rachets from a 1986 Schwinn Passage I picked up
2) Different handlebar shape, I really like the Nitto B132 that I have on my Velo Orange
3) 650bx38 wheel/tire combo
4) Considering adding 10-15mm more rake to the fork, since I really love running a handlebar bag and would want some lighter steering. Will likely have this done at Yellow Jersey in WI.
5) While the nice folks are bending my fork, I'm also considering having two more sets of water bottle bosses added, and a fresh respray of paint. It's pretty rough as-is right now
- Cull the fleet back down to 4-5. The Motobecane will bring the number of complete bikes up to 6, and I frankly just don't have room. The hard part, however will be deciding which will go. The short list only includes one: the aforementioned Passage, but that's mostly because I already have a cantilever-brake touring bike. Admittedly, it's not quite as cool as the Passage would be, but it is complete (and paid for
), so as far as deciding which touring bike to keep - the one I can ride right now, or the one that would need $400 to get rolling in proper touring trim, the choice is pretty easy! Plus, the fork was bent, so it's not like it was a cherry anyways.
01-02-19, 10:23 AM
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I’m toying with the idea of telling myself that I’m not going to buy any more bikes this year. That’s never worked before though. I am also in the position of being out of space so anything coming in will displace one that I have, though I know which ones could go for the right replacement.
On my list: a celeste Bianchi, a Saronni red Colnago, a Gitane with honeycomb dropouts, maybe a nice Masi.
But my official plan for the year is just to focus on sprucing up what I already have. That was my plan last year too and somehow a Stella, a Gios, a Raleigh, and a Serotta found their way into my stable.
On my list: a celeste Bianchi, a Saronni red Colnago, a Gitane with honeycomb dropouts, maybe a nice Masi.
But my official plan for the year is just to focus on sprucing up what I already have. That was my plan last year too and somehow a Stella, a Gios, a Raleigh, and a Serotta found their way into my stable.
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01-02-19, 11:03 AM
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0 need for another bike/frame. I just picked up a Schwinn Premis in turrble conditon to eventually repaint and update. I dont ride my paved road bikes often enough as it is with the gravel riding, so adding another would make no sense.
With that said, I would gladly move a bike out of the lineup and replace it with one if it were something fantastic.
Since basically anything is on the table here...
- A 64cm Ritchey built road frame would be awesome. If it were from from my birth year('81), well that would be even cooler.
Since that isnt going to happen, then something rare for these parts, like a Fuso or any Japanese boutique like Zunow, 3rensho, Cherubim, etc in my size would easily get me to move out a current bike. Thats about as likely as the Ritchey though.
With that said, I would gladly move a bike out of the lineup and replace it with one if it were something fantastic.
Since basically anything is on the table here...
- A 64cm Ritchey built road frame would be awesome. If it were from from my birth year('81), well that would be even cooler.
Since that isnt going to happen, then something rare for these parts, like a Fuso or any Japanese boutique like Zunow, 3rensho, Cherubim, etc in my size would easily get me to move out a current bike. Thats about as likely as the Ritchey though.
01-02-19, 11:25 AM
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No grail list here. My one and only ride is an '84 Peugeot PH10 bought new. Still rides and looks brand new. It ain't broke so I ain't gonna' fix it. At 64 yo I need to start getting rid of stuff, not adding to the junk. Besides, I can only ride 1 bike at a time any way.
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01-02-19, 12:46 PM
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I only realized I had a "grail bike" goal until a few months ago. But I just obtained a perfect fit Centurion Ironman on new years eve, so I should be in remission for awhile. But it's rather like rescuing shelter dog pets. Sometimes you just can't help yourself.
01-02-19, 01:19 PM
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Something in 753 would be nice, maybe by Look, Merckx, or SBDU - (My SBDU is 531). Or a Cambio Corsa frame in ~62cm. (hah!)
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Yup, March 10th. Man, a whole month out from last year, and right in the heart of the gearing up season for summer riding.
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bike-wise... nothing. I have achieved inner peace. Just need to finish off a few projects.
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Good 5o hear that the N+1 bug is relatively under control in this C&V community.....
......But the problem now is, a few N+1 seeds had been planted in my brain from reading the posts on this thread.
Like the mention of something in 753 would be interesting....... I don't have that yet
......yeah, that's the ticket....yeah!
......But the problem now is, a few N+1 seeds had been planted in my brain from reading the posts on this thread.
Like the mention of something in 753 would be interesting....... I don't have that yet
......yeah, that's the ticket....yeah!
01-02-19, 02:24 PM
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Have acquired a number of interesting frames to build for other people. This is the year to start - make N+1 their problem not mine.
01-02-19, 03:43 PM
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Not builds but a bit of repairs and paints. I'm thrilled to see others on bikes of interest but oddly yet have no desire 'going down the rabbit hole'.
Not that I wouldn't necessarily say no to the so called 'grail' - whatever that really means. I truly get my kicks with all type or quality level bikes but more so seeing others into it, how they enjoy or react with their gem.
I've plenty to keep me busy. I appreciate what I have and at my comfort level. The bike as a whole, hobby or physical benefit, humbles me. It would be nice to say and clean out a garage full, to swap fund for a very high end rarity but its not my style. I'm just not right to own those prizes.
For years I was into the car scene, hobby race, clubs, show and tell blah, blah. Same for other motorsports, sleds, motorcycles... Burned out of it and slowly got back into harmless cycling fun. I don't want to get burned out.
If anything, I would like to make adjustments at the homefront and participate more into riding vintage cycling events. Ideally more of Europe but this time at a slower pace and cycling on older classics.
01-02-19, 04:08 PM
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Agreed (even with my post above). This year, it's time to just ride the bikes I have, and ride them everywhere. Sell the stuff I already have for sale and focus things elsewhere, as much as a bicycle enthusiast can. Component shuffles will happen, though that's the other goal is to still the waters in that area. I have about a handful of bikes that are either 'frozen' or nearly frozen in their composition. No messing with the magic. Only one "big" project that I will let take its sweet time--and the frameset was acquired a few months ago before my bike/frame cutoff.
We're still going to the Seattle Bike Swap in February though, right?
We're still going to the Seattle Bike Swap in February though, right?
Yeah, I'll still be going - even if just to meet up with the local C&V contingent, maybe do lunch with everyone again. I'll be on the lookout for consumables if anything at all. So much nicer to wander around events like this without an agenda, you know?
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