Rene Herse stem for $660!!
01-10-19, 11:25 PM
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Rene Herse stem for $660!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rene-Herse-...EAAOSwAE***360
Did anyone catch this on eBay. Wow. That is one special stem.
Did anyone catch this on eBay. Wow. That is one special stem.
01-10-19, 11:44 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rene-Herse-...EAAOSwAE***360
Did anyone catch this on eBay. Wow. That is one special stem.
Did anyone catch this on eBay. Wow. That is one special stem.
This one only surprises me as the handlebar clamp bolts are missing, (they are of themselves unique) and the steerer cap is awol.
Also, this is a longer stem, also not seen often, the French bars often have a longer forward "throw" so a long stem is not used as often to achieve a good fit on the bike.
01-11-19, 03:37 AM
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Did anyone see it beautiful? To me, it is so ugly. But why so expensive?
01-11-19, 05:00 AM
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Definitely a cool old stem, the fore runner of many I'm sure.
01-11-19, 07:15 AM
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As as to why it’s so expensive- they were milled by hand, most likely by Rene Herse himself- from any time in the 1940s to the 70s for an individual, specific customer.
Aside from from the age, rarity, association with Rene Herse, general desirability... it is a stem with some history- whether it’s being included in the provenance or not.
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/Herse.htm
https://www.blackbirdsf.org/herse/
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01-11-19, 10:37 AM
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Wow, was that a BIN or the end price of a bidding war?
Amazing, especially considering the condition and that parts are missing, I wonder how high it would have went had the seller polished it up a bit.
Amazing, especially considering the condition and that parts are missing, I wonder how high it would have went had the seller polished it up a bit.
Not sure though.
01-11-19, 10:53 AM
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Maybe the buyer was someone whom bought a very expensive Rene Herse, figured out the frame was too small and needed a longer stem. So, the $660 was a drop in the bucket vs. the initial purchase.
01-11-19, 11:45 AM
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01-11-19, 03:39 PM
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01-11-19, 04:18 PM
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It sold at that price, so.... Could the free shipping be a big part of the cost?
01-11-19, 05:51 PM
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It's a cutting, you plant it and grow a complete bike.
01-12-19, 06:53 AM
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15? or more years ago there was someone who was recreating them, not cheap either. even with CNC programming, they are all sorts of work to create.
This one only surprises me as the handlebar clamp bolts are missing, (they are of themselves unique) and the steerer cap is awol.
Also, this is a longer stem, also not seen often, the French bars often have a longer forward "throw" so a long stem is not used as often to achieve a good fit on the bike.
This one only surprises me as the handlebar clamp bolts are missing, (they are of themselves unique) and the steerer cap is awol.
Also, this is a longer stem, also not seen often, the French bars often have a longer forward "throw" so a long stem is not used as often to achieve a good fit on the bike.
01-12-19, 08:54 AM
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I find it quite beautiful- it’s unique in design and functions as a stem, cable stop bell mount and with the cap an ID tag.
As as to why it’s so expensive- they were milled by hand, most likely by Rene Herse himself- from any time in the 1940s to the 70s for an individual, specific customer.
Aside from from the age, rarity, association with Rene Herse, general desirability... it is a stem with some history- whether it’s being included in the provenance or not.
Rene HERSE. main
Rene Herse
01-12-19, 12:50 PM
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Then again, you have a real Herse...
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01-12-19, 01:02 PM
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This is one of my favorite Herse bikes I've run acrosss: https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com...3-randonneuse/
If you do like the whole constructeur thing- search for images of Rene Herse, Alex Singer, Toei, Routens, JP Routens. I think it's amazing stuff.
I think the nice thing about BF (and especially C&V) is that lots of people have their own opinions of what is cool- it's all under the same umbrella of "C&V", but high-wheelers, turn of the century bikes, roadsters, constructeur, French, Italian and English racing bikes, touring bikes- everyone has their niche- and most people appreciate that people have their niche, and most people even appreciate people's stuff or their interests- even if it doesn't interest them.
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01-12-19, 07:51 PM
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If you're not into the whole French constructeur aesthetic, I can see where the stem isn't as gracile as most ordinary stems.
This is one of my favorite Herse bikes I've run acrosss: https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com...3-randonneuse/
If you do like the whole constructeur thing- search for images of Rene Herse, Alex Singer, Toei, Routens, JP Routens. I think it's amazing stuff.
I think the nice thing about BF (and especially C&V) is that lots of people have their own opinions of what is cool- it's all under the same umbrella of "C&V", but high-wheelers, turn of the century bikes, roadsters, constructeur, French, Italian and English racing bikes, touring bikes- everyone has their niche- and most people appreciate that people have their niche, and most people even appreciate people's stuff or their interests- even if it doesn't interest them.
This is one of my favorite Herse bikes I've run acrosss: https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com...3-randonneuse/
If you do like the whole constructeur thing- search for images of Rene Herse, Alex Singer, Toei, Routens, JP Routens. I think it's amazing stuff.
I think the nice thing about BF (and especially C&V) is that lots of people have their own opinions of what is cool- it's all under the same umbrella of "C&V", but high-wheelers, turn of the century bikes, roadsters, constructeur, French, Italian and English racing bikes, touring bikes- everyone has their niche- and most people appreciate that people have their niche, and most people even appreciate people's stuff or their interests- even if it doesn't interest them.
Your Herse 1953 randonneuse is quite cool which is also my size & I dream to have a similar one in the future. However, with my low budget, it would be really a challenge & an impossible task!
01-12-19, 08:42 PM
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It's a little disappointing that it went for so much since that is going to encourage other people to strip down their bikes. They are so much better as a unified whole. That's what makes constructeur bikes unique.
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Wow, many thanks for lots of valuable info for enhancing my poor knowledge on French bikes! I will spare times to study for my next vintage bike.
Your Herse 1953 randonneuse is quite cool which is also my size & I dream to have a similar one in the future. However, with my low budget, it would be really a challenge & an impossible task!
Your Herse 1953 randonneuse is quite cool which is also my size & I dream to have a similar one in the future. However, with my low budget, it would be really a challenge & an impossible task!
I hope you enjoy reading about and looking at pictures of those beautiful old bikes as much as I do!
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Not only reading or looking at pics of others' beautiful vintage steel bikes, I always take a sit looking at my vintage steel bike fleet or maintaining one of those every evening after work. That's daily pleasure for C&V enthusiasts.
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creates an aftermarket, I suppose