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Old 03-18-21 | 11:55 AM
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Mystery Basso. Just purchased. Please help ID.

54cm Basso with filet brazed seat cluster and lugged at head tube? PO purchased in England early 2000s. Ultegra/Dura Ace 9-speed.
Never seen a Loto like this one. Seems more like a Viper? And original paint is new to me as well.







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Old 03-18-21 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LawsonMitchell
54cm Basso with filet brazed seat cluster and lugged at head tube? PO purchased in England early 2000s. Ultegra/Dura Ace 9-speed.
Never seen a Loto like this one. Seems more like a Viper? And original paint is new to me as well.






If that’s a Loto it must be a late one (1998?). All the ones I’ve seen were lugged with a lugged fork and a braze-on seat binder, not the collar type shown here. The seat cluster looks like the one on the 1998 Gap posted by Tuberoaster on p. 2 of this thread. That image is not clear enough to see whether the head tube is lugged or not.
As far as I know, all the Vipers had fillet brazing at the head tube too.

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Old 03-18-21 | 01:21 PM
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Mystery Loto

Originally Posted by Oldguyonoldbike
If that’s a Loto it must be a late one (1998?). All the ones I’ve seen were lugged with a lugged fork and a braze-on seat binder, not the collar type shown here. The seat cluster looks like the one on the 1998 Gap posted by Tuberoaster on p. 2 of this thread. That image is not clear enough to see whether the head tube is lugged or not.
As far as I know, all the Vipers had fillet brazing at the head tube too.

I agree. The head tube is lugged. The fork crown looks like a Viper, as well.
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Old 03-18-21 | 01:25 PM
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Definitely a 1998 Basso Loto...

Pic form 1998 Basso Catalog

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Old 03-18-21 | 01:28 PM
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Was the $600 I spent too much? Not SLX, But custom OS?
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Old 03-18-21 | 01:35 PM
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Was the $600 I spent too much? Not SLX, But custom OS?
Only you can answer that question! If I were in the market for another bike I definitely would have considered it at that price, others maybe not. For what it's worth, I recently spent more than that on a frameset from the same period. I'm partial to '90s Italian steel.
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Old 03-21-21 | 02:35 PM
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just picked up, needs to be fitted and dialed in. It skips gears when you press on pedals in the front smaller chain ring. Very light , first non steel bike I have ridden . It definitely needs a more comfortable seat and maybe higher stem. I'm a wee bit older now 😁
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Old 04-28-21 | 05:34 AM
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Basso charges 20 € to look up serials in their records nowadays (and provides you with a "birth certificate" in return...), might still do that, dunno.
Well, I fell for it. Got the stupid certificate but no answers to my questions (what is the tubing and was it a Collstrop team frame), and not even a reply to the last email I sent. Stardue (whoever they are but apparently owners of Bassobikes) claims I have a 1989 Loto but I don't buy that: no SLX tubing, no internal cable routing and likely a different serial number format (A268). "We'll check our archives thoroughly", ha! Still a nice ride though, nothing like my Viper at all however.
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Old 10-08-21 | 07:18 AM
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Did a custom DIY colour shift paintjob on a mid 90th Basso Viper - the pre owner did buy the frame kit and did a build with Shimano 600 and DuraAce in the mid 90th.
I found that beauty and went for a complete rebuild with all original parts. I only had to replace the bar tape, brake pads and chain (extended the cassette for my hilly terrain). All bearings and the wheelset needed a service.
Also the drive train needed a complete degrease and polish
Parts:
steel frame (size 58 Italian) "Basso Ultra Light Tubing 18 MCDV6 heat threated" 1785g
steel fork 673g
Group Set Shimano 600 Ultegra 8 Speed.
Breaks 7400 Dura Ace with new Swissstop Black pads
Wheelset Mavic Open CD 4
total weight 9,3kg (without pedals and bottle cages - aim was to reuse all parts not to go for light weight)


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My ‘84 Gap. I love this bike. Frame measures 65x61, components are all Nuovo Record except brakes and levers which are Modolo Speedy. Since the picture I’ve added Clement LCG Tires and a Selle Italia Epoca leather saddle.








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Here's my 89 Ascot built from MS tubing. Best riding bike I own (I think?) although a bit heavy.


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