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non-fixie 03-07-19 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by HTupolev (Post 20826199)
Less interesting than most of the other stuff in this thread, and not mechanically strange at all, but it's a bizarre rebrand of a bizarre copy of an interesting part. Probably the most esoteric thing I've got laying around.

https://i.imgur.com/0XF9HnZ.jpg

I recognize that brand ....

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c194f4312d.jpg

.... but haven't a clue what it's doing on that derailleur.

EDIT: just had a look around, and there is a page on them on Michael Sweatman's site. He mentions the saddle maker, even without having seen these graphics.
EDIT EDIT: after a closer look: he does have this "555 arabesque"

specialmonkey 03-07-19 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 20826185)

Very nice :)

gugie 03-07-19 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by specialmonkey (Post 20827588)
Very nice :)

Got it from Kramer.

specialmonkey 03-07-19 03:41 PM

How about Shimano's FF and Positron systems?

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/po...-marvel.90466/

Weyless hub skewers are pretty esoteric looking.

crank_addict 03-07-19 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by specialmonkey (Post 20827614)
How about Shimano's FF and Positron systems?

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/po...-marvel.90466/

Indeed. Funny you mention as only a few years ago some maker introduced a same design for MTBs.

Browning was another company making 'esoteric' drive systems like the Smart Shift.

Browning also made for Suntour, The Beast electric shift.

HTupolev 03-07-19 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 20827552)
EDIT EDIT: after a closer look: he does have this "555 arabesque"

Yep. SunRace 555 is a Shimano 600 EX copy, and they apparently re-branded some for Lepper. The disraeligears page shows a long-cage version.

Wildwood 03-07-19 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi1 (Post 20827531)
The cable anchor is right under that circular cap at the center of the caliper.
IIRC thIre's a pinch grub screw with an Allen head socket on it.
Careful when you put back the cap so it snaps on to the hard plastic face cover, under the rubber 'aero" cover.
Seen lots of these with caps gone, I think because the owners only got it attached to the rubber cover which has an oversized hole on it. So it falls off when they rode the bike. It will not be easy to find replacements for such

thanks for heads ups.
Yours look good mounted.
I'm using Modolos on the bike that the Weinmann Deltas were intended for. Rethinking the bike for their use (but it is low on the priority list).

stardognine 03-07-19 07:22 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2c855461.jpeg
I'm not sure these fit the thread properly, but I've been told they're kinda hard to find. "New" 600 EX calipers, in the longer reach flavor. I also got the seatpost, but no brake levers. 😒😉

bear_a_bug 03-08-19 07:08 AM

Stumbled across this Suntour Competition in really good condition at the coop. Likely mid 60's. One of, it not the first slanted parallelogram derailleurs. It's a pretty one, for sure. Likely a shop wall-hanger for me.

https://i.imgur.com/sg2IiU6h.jpg?1

crank_addict 03-08-19 09:24 AM

^That Suntour slant parallelogram clearly is their brilliant design, but almost uncanny how their artwork cast name and background 'parallels' Campagnolo Record. A fine and 'super' example!

crank_addict 03-08-19 09:41 AM

Super Champion Mixte rims. Accept 700c clincher or tubular.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8482837a0.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...adf6b8e55a.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a6792626c3.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...099b8acea8.jpg

fleslider 03-09-19 12:57 PM

the most exotic i have are Magura Hydraulic Rim Brakes

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cc10c647c8.jpg

mkeller234 03-09-19 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by specialmonkey (Post 20827614)
How about Shimano's FF and Positron systems?

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/po...-marvel.90466/

Weyless hub skewers are pretty esoteric looking.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5742370d8.jpeg

mkeller234 03-09-19 03:47 PM

I just got the above weyless hubs. Only the rear still had the original skewer. The owner said thinks he had over tightened and broken the front.

fietsbob 03-09-19 04:00 PM

Campagnolo High-Low hubs I still have wheels I built in the 70's 36 hole , I used 3 cross on the high, 4 cross on the low flange..

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rMTu_FrLK...0/IMG_1241.jpg this guy opines on ,, The Retrogrouch: Hi-Lo Hubs

specialmonkey 03-10-19 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 20830492)

Nice looking skewer ... how do you like the hubs and sealed bearings?

mkeller234 03-10-19 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by specialmonkey (Post 20831273)
Nice looking skewer ... how do you like the hubs and sealed bearings?

I haven’t really ridden this bike much yet. I bought it recently and I am waiting for the weather to improve. I have spun the rear wheel in my hands though and it is SMOOTH! I’m excited to give them a whirl. It sounds like they may not be easy to service in the future though.

steelbikeguy 03-10-19 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 20827552)
I recognize that brand ....

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c194f4312d.jpg

.... but haven't a clue what it's doing on that derailleur.

EDIT: just had a look around, and there is a page on them on Michael Sweatman's site. He mentions the saddle maker, even without having seen these graphics.
EDIT EDIT: after a closer look: he does have this "555 arabesque"

that reminds me... I've got a Lepper saddle on my Olmo. Don't recall the model name, but it looks a lot like this:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1128/...a6609c_z_d.jpg

Two things are novel about it....

1. it has hollow steel rails made of Reynolds 531

2. There is a strip of nylon material under the center of the saddle. It's tensioned leather, like many saddles, but also tensioned nylon.

Apparently these used to come as standard on a Cannondale touring bike. Mine was in the parts bin at the LBS, presumably being swapped when the bike was purchased. Definitely the best $25 I've spent!

Steve in Peoria

p.s. these were a bit notorious for breaking where the rails were welded to the cantle "plate". Not a good saddle for anyone but the skinny folks, apparently.

crank_addict 03-14-19 02:23 PM

The following rare wheelset was mentioned on another thread and as listed on the big auction site. Early and possibly prototype Ukai carbon spokes with carbon / aluminum rim. Described as first shown on display -show bike.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0d9860ab97.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9cdbbcba4a.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...09e13ff6b6.png

crank_addict 03-14-19 02:34 PM

Also seen on the big auction site. First I've heard of Edco offering an index - dual control and with hydraulic calipers.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fe00dc87b2.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...885769cf28.png
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c943997826.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ec3737e245.png
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...03a65e9f5c.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1fe0f1cf5e.png

Salamandrine 03-14-19 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by crank_addict (Post 20837941)
Also seen on the big auction site. First I've heard of Edco offering an index - dual control and with hydraulic calipers.

That's interesting. Never saw those before. They look like a high end version of the Shimano hydraulic caliper brakes from the 70s. Those were rather obscure and less common than the disk brakes.

Interestingly, there's some of those listed on ebay right now as well.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Dm4AA...5rd/s-l500.jpg

steelbikeguy 03-14-19 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by crank_addict (Post 20837941)
Also seen on the big auction site. First I've heard of Edco offering an index - dual control and with hydraulic calipers.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ec3737e245.png

That's a unique approach to integrated levers! Marginally similar to SunTour Command, in the sense that a lever rotates on a horizontal lateral axis. Unlike the Commands, this only gives you one lever (or wing) to handle. As a result, you have to pull the lever back towards you. With the SunTour, there was a wing on each side of the pivot so you could always push to make the shift.

It is somewhat similar to the Kelly Take-off, and probably with a more convenient lever location.
It would be fun to hear a review of these!

Steve in Peoria

Chombi1 03-14-19 05:51 PM

That Edco braieset was actually made by Magura. Just rebranded, like a lot of Edco components were back then....
I was thinking about getting them a few years back but decided that they just look a bit too unattractive (to put it kindly) to put on my bikes...

CliffordK 03-14-19 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 20826185)

There is a leather seat similar to that one on the local Craigslist called "PHAT"

Let me know if you wish to trade it for a bicycle. :)

https://images.craigslist.org/00h0h_...j_1200x900.jpg
https://images.craigslist.org/00V0V_...a_1200x900.jpg
https://images.craigslist.org/00q0q_...l_1200x900.jpg

crank_addict 03-14-19 06:36 PM

^ That is one serious saddle! Difficult to make out the tag but is this Lepper / made in Holland?

------------

While on the term 'bottom', try this helix titanium bb from Bruce Boone.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...73ffc69e2c.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...50aaa0cfd4.png

gugie 03-14-19 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20838262)
There is a leather seat similar to that one on the local Craigslist called "PHAT"

Let me know if you wish to trade it for a bicycle. :)

https://images.craigslist.org/00h0h_...j_1200x900.jpg

Looks like the same saddle, except it's for someone who has a leather fetish.

:D

Chombi1 03-14-19 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by crank_addict (Post 20838279)
^ That is one serious saddle! Difficult to make out the tag but is this Lepper / made in Holland?

------------

While on the term 'bottom', try this helix titanium bb from Bruce Boone.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...73ffc69e2c.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...50aaa0cfd4.png

Looks like it was inspired by a shark's egg case.....

steelbikeguy 03-14-19 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by crank_addict (Post 20838279)
^ That is one serious saddle! Difficult to make out the tag but is this Lepper / made in Holland?

------------

While on the term 'bottom', try this helix titanium bb from Bruce Boone.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...73ffc69e2c.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...50aaa0cfd4.png

wait... who buys exotic stuff and then hides it in the bottom bracket shell? How are you going to impress your friends like that??

Steve in Peoria

Chombi1 03-14-19 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by steelbikeguy (Post 20838456)
wait... who buys exotic stuff and then hides it in the bottom bracket shell? How are you going to impress your friends like that??

Steve in Peoria

Lots of bikes have "vented" BB shells with holes ion the shape of the first letter of the brand'like "M" cut outside on Masis. Or just slots or many small round holes in a pattern.
Thing is, better tell your friends not to stick their fingers in the holes when turning the crank, if you have a BB spindle like this one, unless they want hamburger fingers ...:rolleyes:

crank_addict 03-14-19 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by steelbikeguy (Post 20838456)
wait... who buys exotic stuff and then hides it in the bottom bracket shell? How are you going to impress your friends like that??

Steve in Peoria

Perhaps the bike has a purpose in the kitchen. Remove the seat post and mash the ingredients into the down tube. A RONCO gizmo Rube Goldberg jobbie

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa7ad6108c.png
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...486a222f55.jpg


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