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Old 03-28-19, 12:06 PM
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Lekker leather saddles?

Hey all:

I'm seeing these saddles on that auction site for good prices, just wondered if anybody had tried them out or has any info? I'm not able to find much on the web.
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https://www.lekkerbikes.com.au/produ...-saddle-black/
I like this one .
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Looks like plastic saddle with a cover.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lekker-Leat...40b8c0ef9eb0cc



I have no experience with these other than what I glean from the photos in the listing.

Okay, with that disclaimer out of the way, I see they have already tied the skirts together. Tying the skirts in this manner is usually the last thing you do with an old saddle that is losing its shape due to use and abuse. Some people find the tied skirts allow them to get a little more use out of a saddle that's reached the end of its useful life. In my experience, once a saddle reaches that point, it's done.

If the manufacturer is already tying the skirts on a new saddle, that's not a good sign.

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That's not a leather saddle.
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It says leather . Read the ad .

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They'll be Gyes saddles branded as Lekker. Velo Orange's leather saddles are also Gyes, as are Spa Cycles' saddles in the UK. Also Cardiff, Origin8, MHL, etc. - there are various. They don't seem to be marketed as Gyes outside of Taiwan, where they're made, although they're available as such on AliExpress.

You can search the Gyes catalogue for the likely suspects - 'RAIL' and 'SPRING RAIL' - the Lekker 'Sport' is the GS-06, the 'Cruiser' the GS-08 and the 'Commuter' the GS-17. I think the equivalent Brooks saddles would be the Swallow, Flyer and B17 respectively - they're quite elegantly branded, anyway.

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The ones in the ebay listing are most certainly leather (Australian cowhide), although I think there might be some kind of a membrane incorporated to prevent them losing their shape when wet. I haven't heard of them deforming the way Brooks saddles do over time, and their rails are longer than the equivalent Brooks, allowing more setback, but they apparently take longer to break in (if at all). Others on here will have had some experience with them. Some have laces from new, some don't, but I wouldn't worry unduly about them going out of shape.

There was a problem with the nose assembly cracking and failing on early Gyes-made saddles but AFAIK that's been sorted and shouldn't be the case with the Lekker branded saddles since presumably they'll be the latest evolution. The dye tended to fade on honey coloured ones, especially, but again that might have improved.

I'm just about to order a Gyes-made 'Nidd Narrow' from Spa Cycles, effectively a GS-24, a narrower version of the GS-17, like a Brooks Professional, I think. I'll see how it goes.

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Originally Posted by kylecycler View Post
They'll be Gyes saddles branded as Lekker. Velo Orange's leather saddles are also Gyes, as are Spa Cycles' saddles in the UK. Also Cardiff, Origin8, MHL, etc. - there are various. They don't seem to be marketed as Gyes outside of Taiwan, where they're made, although they're available as such on AliExpress.

You can search the Gyes catalogue for the likely suspects - 'RAIL' and 'SPRING RAIL' - the Lekker 'Sport' is the GS-06, the 'Cruiser' the GS-08 and the 'Commuter' the GS-17. I think the equivalent Brooks saddles would be the Swallow, Flyer and B17 respectively - they're quite elegantly branded, anyway.

Gyes

The ones in the ebay listing are most certainly leather (Australian cowhide), although I think there might be some kind of a membrane incorporated to prevent them losing their shape when wet. I haven't heard of them deforming the way Brooks saddles do over time, and their rails are longer than the equivalent Brooks, allowing more setback, but they apparently take longer to break in (if at all). Others on here will have had some experience with them. Some have laces from new, some don't, but I wouldn't worry unduly about them going out of shape.

There was a problem with the nose assembly cracking and failing on early Gyes-made saddles but AFAIK that's been sorted and shouldn't be the case with the Lekker branded saddles since presumably they'll be the latest evolution. The dye tended to fade on honey coloured ones, especially, but again that might have improved.

I'm just about to order a Gyes-made 'Nidd Narrow' from Spa Cycles, effectively a GS-24, a narrower version of the GS-17, like a Brooks Professional, I think. I'll see how it goes.
Cool, helpful info, thanks! Keep me posted on that Spa Cycles saddle. I was looking at those too.
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Originally Posted by markwesti View Post
It says leather . Read the ad .

Yes, indeed it does. But the photo does not show a leather saddle. The photo shows a plastic saddle with foam padding and some kind of upholstered cover (that may be real or fake leather) and decorative rivets.

If nothing else, the stated weight gives it away. A Brooks leather saddle with titanium frame, which is as light as a leather saddle gets, is over 350 g. If this saddle is really 300g, it's not a leather saddle.
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Originally Posted by rhm View Post
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lekker-Leat...40b8c0ef9eb0cc



I have no experience with these other than what I glean from the photos in the listing.

Okay, with that disclaimer out of the way, I see they have already tied the skirts together. Tying the skirts in this manner is usually the last thing you do with an old saddle that is losing its shape due to use and abuse. Some people find the tied skirts allow them to get a little more use out of a saddle that's reached the end of its useful life. In my experience, once a saddle reaches that point, it's done.

If the manufacturer is already tying the skirts on a new saddle, that's not a good sign.
I removed the lacing from my VO B67-knockoff, and it's been fine
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Originally Posted by Roypercy View Post
Cool, helpful info, thanks! Keep me posted on that Spa Cycles saddle. I was looking at those too.
Ok will do. Might take a wee while to evaluate it, of course.

Crow Cycles used to be the US distributor for Gyes but seems to be gone - they even offered them on ebay.co.uk but unfortunately the shipping costs to the UK were prohibitive, especially when at least some were available from Spa (so far Spa hasn't offered any of the sprung ones).

A cycling buddy (ex US Navy nuclear submarine Lieutenant Commander, no less - he married a Scots lass and settled here) has lent me a Brooks Cambium C15 'Carved' (i.e. with a cutout) that he didn't get on with. I've got two more-or-less identical hybrids, one used as a workhorse for transportation, the other for country/club rides and touring, so I could compare the two saddles back-to-back and see which works best. For me, of course - you'll know what works for one of us won't necessarily work for the other when it comes to saddles, especially! The most I've spent on a saddle so far was on an Ergon, and I don't think it works for me.

The 'leather look' saddle above is also marketed under different names, although I don't think it's made by Gyes.
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fake "Regal" ... I don't even like the original. Fake decoration rivets are not my thing ... they don't stay "real" leather. So its pro#lly plastic, Faux leather or "vegan" leather as some call plastic nowadays...
If leather then Brooks or such ... I love the old "Professional". Have about 3 or four on several bikes. My other favorite for classic roadbike is the old Turbo, not the remakes.

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I have no experience with these other than what I glean from the photos in the listing.

Okay, with that disclaimer out of the way, I see they have already tied the skirts together. Tying the skirts in this manner is usually the last thing you do with an old saddle that is losing its shape due to use and abuse. Some people find the tied skirts allow them to get a little more use out of a saddle that's reached the end of its useful life. In my experience, once a saddle reaches that point, it's done.

If the manufacturer is already tying the skirts on a new saddle, that's not a good sign.
here is a almost new small Rivet Brooks Professional with lacing... should I take it off? I think Brooks does when the seat has the long cutout slit like this one.


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2019's tensioned leather saddle manufacturers include:

Berthoud - France
Brooks - UK
Gyes (Cardiff, Dia Compe, Fyxation, Lekker, Origin8, Papillionaire, Shinola, Spa, Torelli, Velo Orange, etc.) - Taiwan
Ideale - France
Lepper - Netherlands
Nasiruddin (Persons) - India
Rivet - AFAIK manufactured in Taiwan by Gyes but to their own proprietary designs
Selle Italia - Italy
Selle Anatomica - USA
Selle Monte Grappa - Italy
Tabor - Portugal
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