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Originally Posted by jiangshi
(Post 22734854)
My guess is a 1985 Professional, SL tubing.
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Guess I can add mine to the mix.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c140500b7a.jpg Best I can tell there's a 55 and a C on the left side, https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...96bca69459.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ad5d4005aa.jpg On the right side it looks like a G and a serial # 453889 https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8c222d9669.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2b02845197.jpg Then there's this... https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d558d78e6d.jpg |
G3886 - serial number, frame built in late 1996.
45 - different font size, non-standard marking. 55C - frame size 55 cm, C - marking used at the time only on the Corsa 01 model. Paint pattern introduced in 2000 for the 2001 season used on Team Domo Farm Frites, frame painted in EMC. Information posted on a piece of paper attached to the fork steering tube would be very helpful. |
Originally Posted by CyclesMakaron
(Post 22737680)
G3886 - serial number, frame built in late 1996.
45 - different font size, non-standard marking. 55C - frame size 55 cm, C - marking used at the time only on the Corsa 01 model. Paint pattern introduced in 2000 for the 2001 season used on Team Domo Farm Frites, frame painted in EMC. Information posted on a piece of paper attached to the fork steering tube would be very helpful. The bike was supposedly ridden by Wendy De Vos on the Domo Farm Frites women's team. I've found one reference to there actually being a women's team with only one rider associated with it. I have found Wendy via Strava but have no way to reach out and ask her. There was no paper on the fork steerer nor did I even notice any stampings or such. Thanks for the info! Back to googling.... |
Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 22737823)
Ah...So a Corsa 01 model not just a Corsa. Now I have more research to do. Seller said it was EL-OS but I really don't know what tubing it is. It weighs 18 lbs 12 ozs in the picture without pedals so It's got to be a fairly light tubeset.
The bike was supposedly ridden by Wendy De Vos on the Domo Farm Frites women's team. I've found one reference to there actually being a women's team with only one rider associated with it. I have found Wendy via Strava but have no way to reach out and ask her. There was no paper on the fork steerer nor did I even notice any stampings or such. Thanks for the info! Back to googling.... I was out on my MX Leader version today...a mind blowingly good ride:) https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...02e09b737c.jpg I know nothing about the pro race circuit and am not disputing that Wendy was/is a pro racer, but maybe it could be possible she's just a regular cyclist who had the frame repainted with her name on. My frame above was dated by Jacek as from 1993, the Domo Farm Frites paint scheme was from much later in 2000/2001. The non drive side of mine also has a name on it that google does not give any inkling about a pro cyclist, so I just assumed it was a keen amateur Belgian cyclist who bought an older Merckx, and in or around or after 2000/2001 got repainted with his name on the top tube. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1b02b04e59.jpg I'm not on Strava but can't you reach out to people on there to maybe ask her direct? Is she are you on Twitter or Facebook maybe an option too? Its not stalker-ey to try and track someone down to ask their bike history is it? If it was me I'd super pleased to see an old friend again and know that it was still on the road. Just some thoughts for my 2 pence/cents worth. |
And these are not mine, and are not in my size so I'm not in the market for them, but I'm sure our eagle eyed Jacek has seen them, and I was just curious and had some paint scheme questions. These are both currently on UK ebay now.
First up is a labelled Corsa Extra in the Team Panasonic paint scheme. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175505088...Bk9SR4jQr7ijYQ Cube rear brake bridge and flat crowned fork. However the colors on the camo fade from dark blue to lighter blue does not look the same as the one on my 1985 Pro. The one above has two color apart from the dark blue and white, one of which looks more grey. Is this original or a repaint? For reference here's the camo fade on mine. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc43adb193.jpg My one also has the full chrome rear triangle, right up to the seat pin.... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8238384133.jpg I've seen versions that have a painted rear triangle in the white and blue, and ones with chrome chainstay/s. I have never seen the paint and chrome variant on the chainstays and seatstays of the bike advertised, it just didn't look right to me, no camo fade on the seat stays in particular looked odd, but wondered if Jacek has seen it and what he thought? And secondly is this MX Leader, it looks to be one of the earlier full Columbus Max versions, before the introduction of the MXL tubeset. But what wowed me about this one was the cool orange to yellow paint drip effect fade on the paint job, and also the starry rear triangle. I don't recall ever having seen that before. Jacek does that paint scheme have a name, was it associated with a team? I was just curious. Tell me more about this please:) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334667869...-0&toolid=1001 |
Originally Posted by botty kayer
(Post 22741013)
Welcome to team fries James, a fine team indeed:lol: . The paint on yours looks in fantastic condition, great score!
I was out on my MX Leader version today...a mind blowingly good ride:) I know nothing about the pro race circuit and am not disputing that Wendy was/is a pro racer, but maybe it could be possible she's just a regular cyclist who had the frame repainted with her name on. My frame above was dated by Jacek as from 1993, the Domo Farm Frites paint scheme was from much later in 2000/2001. The non drive side of mine also has a name on it that google does not give any inkling about a pro cyclist, so I just assumed it was a keen amateur Belgian cyclist who bought an older Merckx, and in or around or after 2000/2001 got repainted with his name on the top tube. I'm not on Strava but can't you reach out to people on there to maybe ask her direct? Is she are you on Twitter or Facebook maybe an option too? Its not stalker-ey to try and track someone down to ask their bike history is it? If it was me I'd super pleased to see an old friend again and know that it was still on the road. Just some thoughts for my 2 pence/cents worth. Yep, I have reached out a couple of ways. I was told she was married to Sven Vanthourenhout who was a Domo-Farm Frites rider and a coach of the Belgium cycling team. I found old google hits about them having some kids. Those same kids did a ride together with the Wendy I found on Strava back in 2021. No recent entries for her though. I did make a comment on that ride hoping she'd get an email alert or something but no response. Love to find out but without seeming too much like a crazed cycling stalker, LOL! The bike is nice. Some pretty good chips at a few spots on the paint and some chain wear on the one stay. What's curious is the non-treaded fork. It didn't have any label attached nor did I see any stampings or other marks on it. It is a 1" steerer though. I was able to source the Silva branded blue Merckx tape like I've seen in some of the men's team photo's and have a set heading my way. Last night I got in the 90mm stem I needed for my fit and put that on. I also swapped the white flite saddle for a black Avocet Ti Air I had. So this will at least look like the old men's team bikes. We are getting hammered with snow though so this won't get a test ride for months, augh!! So right now I guess I'm actively "stalking" to riders for confirmation. Wendy on this one and Oscar Freire on the Olmo. It'd be cool to actually hear back from at least one of them. |
jamesdak I love a good detective story:). Fingers crossed you get a reply with some more info, and post back here with any news. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by botty kayer
(Post 22741046)
And these are not mine, and are not in my size so I'm not in the market for them, but I'm sure our eagle eyed Jacek has seen them, and I was just curious and had some paint scheme questions. These are both currently on UK ebay now.
First up is a labelled Corsa Extra in the Team Panasonic paint scheme. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175505088...Bk9SR4jQr7ijYQ Cube rear brake bridge and flat crowned fork. However the colors on the camo fade from dark blue to lighter blue does not look the same as the one on my 1985 Pro. The one above has two color apart from the dark blue and white, one of which looks more grey. Is this original or a repaint? For reference here's the camo fade on mine. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc43adb193.jpg My one also has the full chrome rear triangle, right up to the seat pin.... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8238384133.jpg I've seen versions that have a painted rear triangle in the white and blue, and ones with chrome chainstay/s. I have never seen the paint and chrome variant on the chainstays and seatstays of the bike advertised, it just didn't look right to me, no camo fade on the seat stays in particular looked odd, but wondered if Jacek has seen it and what he thought? And secondly is this MX Leader, it looks to be one of the earlier full Columbus Max versions, before the introduction of the MXL tubeset. But what wowed me about this one was the cool orange to yellow paint drip effect fade on the paint job, and also the starry rear triangle. I don't recall ever having seen that before. Jacek does that paint scheme have a name, was it associated with a team? I was just curious. Tell me more about this please:) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334667869...-0&toolid=1001 |
I just picked this one up from Steel Vintage Bikes in Berlin during their Black Friday sale (20% off + free shipping to Texas ... arrived in 2 days!). My calculations are Strada Cromor 62cm c-c, probably 1988 based on the high A serial number and catalog photos with color scheme and logos. The fork, unfortunately, is not original. Has the straight seat stay brake bridge vs. the pointed arched one. Any other insights appreciated! And if anyone runs across an Eddy Merckx steel fork for this 62cm, lemme know!
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...59f18d7ce0.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...302ead9335.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cbc78b9a3a.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7fd245d566.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b8e36b45b9.jpg |
no cable guide on the bottom bracket?
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Originally Posted by Schweinhund
(Post 22742097)
no cable guide on the bottom bracket?
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And here's a photo I captured of her out in the wild ...
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4a24b41858.jpg |
Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 22741156)
Nice!
Yep, I have reached out a couple of ways. I was told she was married to Sven Vanthourenhout who was a Domo-Farm Frites rider and a coach of the Belgium cycling team. I found old google hits about them having some kids. Those same kids did a ride together with the Wendy I found on Strava back in 2021. No recent entries for her though. I did make a comment on that ride hoping she'd get an email alert or something but no response. Love to find out but without seeming too much like a crazed cycling stalker, LOL! The bike is nice. Some pretty good chips at a few spots on the paint and some chain wear on the one stay. What's curious is the non-treaded fork. It didn't have any label attached nor did I see any stampings or other marks on it. It is a 1" steerer though. I was able to source the Silva branded blue Merckx tape like I've seen in some of the men's team photo's and have a set heading my way. Last night I got in the 90mm stem I needed for my fit and put that on. I also swapped the white flite saddle for a black Avocet Ti Air I had. So this will at least look like the old men's team bikes. We are getting hammered with snow though so this won't get a test ride for months, augh!! So right now I guess I'm actively "stalking" two riders for confirmation. Wendy on this one and Oscar Freire on the Olmo. It'd be cool to actually hear back from at least one of them. |
Nice foto
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Gorgeous
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Was that the last year of full housing brake cables?
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What is my frame?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9fba7db7d.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...92ca9352c.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bd0f9a69e.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ccee42b69.jpeg My Eddy has a CX which would indicate it’s a Criterium, but the serial number of Z7893 is pre Z7900. I’m lost as to what I have. Some have said it’s possibly one of the first criteriums. I don’t know. Thoughts? |
The oldest (that I know of) Criterium frame from the first production series. Check the markings on the fork steering tube.
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Originally Posted by zbillster
(Post 22742970)
And here's a photo I captured of her out in the wild ...
Regards, Nenad |
Originally Posted by nenad
(Post 22781618)
Beautiful bike, this is a 62 size frame. What is the head tube length in this size (in mm)?
Regards, Nenad 193mm head tube height. |
Originally Posted by thejohnreyes
(Post 22780140)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bd0f9a69e.jpeg My Eddy has a CX which would indicate it’s a Criterium, but the serial number of Z7893 is pre Z7900. I’m lost as to what I have. Some have said it’s possibly one of the first criteriums. I don’t know. Thoughts? |
Originally Posted by Straightblock
(Post 22781921)
Am I seeing a crack in the downtube or is that just in the paint?
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Help me out!
Hoping some of the Eddy gurus on here can ad something to my dilemma. This is the BB, I recently learnt this isnt an original Weinmann but a Panasonic, is this true? Any idea who could ED be, isnt listed on the rooster for team Pana 86,87 or 88.. i am out of my depth here, please help 🤔😊🙏
left side: P right side: Z9202 ED 1 87 |
Decoding EM Corsa Extra Lotto (Fuchsia/White/Chrome)
Hi CyclesMakaron,
i stumbled over your outstanding knowledge when i was trying to get some information about my newly acquired EM Corsa Extra in the painting of Lotto?. I tried to take some photos from the important parts (information i got while reading the thread). i hope you could help me and it would mean a lot to me. thank you very much in advance! Best regards, Philipp Left: A Right: C 6162 https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...516f1a188.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cbabdcc10.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...64973258d.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...76f8b2bbe.jpeg here is a 5 in the clean area, and a H in the dark area https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c64080e80.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84fc25852.jpeg |
P Z9202 ED 1 87
I wrote about it on FB Info/options: - So far I have only seen the initials on the profi team frame on Panasonic 1986 and 1987. - if it is Panasonic then there were 3 Eric(k)s competing there in the 1987 season: Breukink, Van Lancker, Vanderaerden and each had correspondingly marked frames (EB,EL,EV). - there was also Eddy Planckaert, he should have had the marking EP, perhaps it was decided to change this to ED (EP could have been confused with the inaccurately reflected EB), perhaps there was a confusion of markings (letters P and D). - there is still a possibility that ED was supposed to start for Team Panasonic in 1987, a frame was built for him in the fall of 1986, but for unknown reasons (contract breakup, health problems) he did not race that season. ...And don't put up for sale those "team Motorola" (because there are two) from 1985.... show the manufacturer's markings, they may turn out to be valuable frames without sensational descriptions.... C6162 Other than the dating (spring 1991) I can't write anything certain. As for 1991 Lotto 1988 paint pattern is a surprise. Did you make sure it's an SLX? |
Hopefully this one hasn’t been covered already, and appreciate your input. This Eddy Merckx frame has been listed on eBay for quite a while, first as a complete bike and now as a frameset. I was wondering if you could determine if this was a Reynolds 753 frame. The seat stay treatment looks like what I’m used to seeing on the 753 frames, internal rear brake cable routing, number tab, Eddy Merckx brake bridge and Corsa Extra style fork crown.
Bottom bracket: Left Y 5 Right A 6382 Seller lists as a 54, but guessing it’s a 55. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...acc1c7815d.png https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bba7642ca.jpeg |
Most likely, it is a Corsa Extra - unfortunately, there is no basis for determining what tubes the frame is made of.
A photo of the tube ends visible through the BB cover would help a lot. |
Originally Posted by CyclesMakaron
(Post 22796378)
Most likely, it is a Corsa Extra - unfortunately, there is no basis for determining what tubes the frame is made of.
A photo of the tube ends visible through the BB cover would help a lot. |
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