Ex Pres 

Did Peugeot use 531p on the PX's? (I thought only on PY's)

EDIT: found another thread that ID'd the 531p of this era as a PZ 10.

madpogue 

You can see a bit more of the kickstand just inboard of the rim, just above the bottom run of the chain.

1simplexnut

hiya . there is an old bike shop stand on the other side . hooks over bottom chain stays behind seat tube .

Yes New Zealand has a fair amount of hills . :-)
Anywhere in New Zealand is no more than a hour from the coasts(s)
Pretty flat where I am .

1simplexnut

wash your mouth out ! Kick stand! yikes . I am nuts but not crazy :-) There is no kickstand used

1simplexnut

Hi Have seen them labeled as all of the above over the years .
Depends on the year and the market .
Have given up worrying about it .

I just like them

P!N20

True. Here's a great little article about it: https://veloaficionado.com/blog/camp...ber-shop-parts

verktyg 

During the late 70's and 80's Peugeot had more model variations than any of the other big European makers: Motobecane was notorious for this too until they passed on in the mid 80's; Raleigh, Gitane and Bianchi did this to a lesser degree.

Peugeot used the same frame geometry on all of their performance models from the early 80's through the early 90's. Gitane did too. It was a mix of Italian handling with the smooth ride that French bikes were noted for.

Ride and handling varied depending on frame size and tubing wall thickness but a 56cm or 58cm frame performed pretty much the same between top models across the board.

For example here are the frame specs for the top 4 Peugeot models sold in the US market in 1988:



The PY10xx, PZ10xx, PV10xx and a few versions of PX10xx were custom built or at least special ordered top end or Team Replica models. By about 1987-88 in some markets they switched from the Px10xx model designations to model names like Deauville, Aravis, Biarritz, Galibier and so on depending on the market. In others Peugeot used both types of model designations for each model.

In the late 80's the Campy equipped models were named after the gruppo the bikes were equipped with: Chorus, Athena, and so on.

Over time Peugeot used the following tubing on the better quality models: Reynolds 531 standard gauge 1.0mm x .7mm butted main tubes (later called 531ST), Reynolds 531 Extra Leger (531SL), Reynolds 531C (Competition), Reynolds 531P (Professionnel), Reynolds 501 (Chrome Moly steel) and Reynolds 753R. They also used Super Vitus 980, Columbus SL and Columbus SLX on some models.

Reynolds 531SL, 531P and 753 tubing all had the same wall thicknesses.

There doesn't seem to be any logic for the tubing choice but was probably influenced by specific markets.

Peugeot produced market specific models for France, the UK, the Netherlands, Germany, the East Bloc countries, the US, Canada and probably OZ and NZ, even Japan.

The same model name could be found on completely different bikes or differently equipped bikes in specific markets.

For example, the Aravis with a Reynolds 531P frame and a Shimano 105 gruppo was one of the top models in the UK in the late 80's. In Canada, the Aravis was close to an entry level model.



I had 2 1988 Peugeot Biarritz bikes but sold one of them. It's tied with my 1984 Gitane TdF as my Goldilocks bike. The 1988 Biarritz came with a Super Vitus 980 frame and a Shimano 600 Ultegra Tri-Color gruppo. This one was almost new with less than 100 miles on it when I got it.



I also have 1988 and 1989 Peugeot Chorus bikes with Reynolds 753R frames and Campy Chorus gruppos. The Biarritz with SV 980 tubing pictured above is a smoother riding bike.


I have the complete 1989 Chorus 753, it just needs to be reassembled.



I briefly had this rare 1989 Peugeot "SLX" that I got from the UK. It was pretty much the same as my 1989 Chorus 753 except for Columbus SLX tubing. I think that this was a former team bike of some kind.

I don't like the ride of Columbus SLX frames, they're too harsh for me so I got rid of it.




That's all folks....

verktyg

madpogue 

10-4 (as they used to say here in the States, BITD). I have a similar two-legged stand (SunTour, actually); don't think I've ever seen a one-legged version. Excellent idea for "glamor shots".

1simplexnut

here is a pic of stand used . not pretty but works just fine

1simplexnut

rideable just waiting for some CXC maillard toe clips .
cleaned up ok