This or that: Bob Jackson v. Serotta
#27
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Not a fan of either marque, but for me the Jackson is the lesser of two "meh"s. True, it's probably not as well constructed as the Serotta but my experience riding Ben's bikes is "Ugh. Why would you even bother?". YMMV, of course.
If you have a chance to ride both, you should. That will make the choice much more obvious.
If you have a chance to ride both, you should. That will make the choice much more obvious.
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Not a fan of either marque, but for me the Jackson is the lesser of two "meh"s. True, it's probably not as well constructed as the Serotta but my experience riding Ben's bikes is "Ugh. Why would you even bother?". YMMV, of course.
If you have a chance to ride both, you should. That will make the choice much more obvious.
If you have a chance to ride both, you should. That will make the choice much more obvious.
#30
I think they're both great-looking bikes. I would, like [MENTION=159681]Bianchigirll[/MENTION] suggested, get the Bob Jackson and sell the components and outfit it with older parts. I love the color scheme and Davis sloping fork crown. While the Serotta is also an attractive bike I don't like the old carbon fork (possibly a Look fork). I would guess tire clearance will be ever so slightly better on the Jackson as well.
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#31
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This might have some valid bearing on the matter...About Us | Bob Jackson Cycles
I did not state it so baldly, but I was thinking about the relative size of each shop and how that might affect their "production".
I did not know these particular details, until now, but this makes obvious there are "production" frames, and then there are "production" frames.
There may be qualitative differences within a brand (or even a particular model) especially over time, for many reasons. Knowledge of which may become less (or sometimes more) generally well known.
Having read this little bit of historical context, I would want to know more about the 1992 Bob Jackson before I bought it.
*In what years was the Colnago Super considered to be less "super" than others? (No points for saying "all of them", that's just lazy.)
#32
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Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
The BJ looks "faster" to me than they normally ever do. Usually a fan of the oldschool livery, lug lining, barber pole, from them but this one looks great to me with understated graphics and paint/color that really pops for me.
#33
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No bad choice there. A Serotta Ti would be preferred if costs were all the same. Can you ride both first?
#34
The Jackson looks like a larger frame, no? If the sizes are different, that’s probably all the more reason to ride both before deciding.
The geometries look really different as well. Seat tube angle, head angle, wheelbase all look quite different to me.
The geometries look really different as well. Seat tube angle, head angle, wheelbase all look quite different to me.
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#35
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I think that ti Serotta is gorgeous and would be fun to own/ride.
However, I won't touch any road bike that won't take at least a 700x28 nowadays.
The roads here stink and a 700x25 just sinks on the gravel roads I ride.
So, will the Concours handle a 28?
Just something to ponder.
However, I won't touch any road bike that won't take at least a 700x28 nowadays.
The roads here stink and a 700x25 just sinks on the gravel roads I ride.
So, will the Concours handle a 28?
Just something to ponder.
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The thing about titanium is if it is too thin it can feel a bit noodle-ly. So riding it may be important. If it is done right, it has kind of a springy spriteful ride that is similar but lighter to the feel of 853 Reynolds or True Temper OX TIG welded steel bikes.
That Bob Jackson looks fantastic, I wouldn't change a thing parts wise except for comfort, and I bet it rides fantastic. Lugged bikes have a great feel, like the miles disappear down the road.
I would really ride both to find the better fit.
That Bob Jackson looks fantastic, I wouldn't change a thing parts wise except for comfort, and I bet it rides fantastic. Lugged bikes have a great feel, like the miles disappear down the road.
I would really ride both to find the better fit.







