Good looking threadless stem????
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Good looking threadless stem????
Ok I am on record and continue to be of the opinion that threadless stems are of a less than pleasing aesthetic (actually fugly is the term i tend to use)
however there is a remote possibility that I may have to eat these words and use one
Can any one show be some examples that fit the aesthetic of classic quill stems, i.e down sloping, not too massive .... I just can't do the deer horn look
thanks all
however there is a remote possibility that I may have to eat these words and use one
Can any one show be some examples that fit the aesthetic of classic quill stems, i.e down sloping, not too massive .... I just can't do the deer horn look
thanks all
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Simworks is a brand that has a few steel threadless stems made by Nitto. I think the fillet-brazed ones look best but they also have TIG'ed ones for a bit cheaper: https://sim.works/collections/stems-simworks-by-nitto
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https://www.retro-gression.com/produ...hreadless-stem
Also: I have bought stuff from this company and they are great.
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You used to be able to purchase stem kits, and I thought with a teardrop stem.
This appears to just be lugs for a round tube.
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle...ess-steel.html
This appears to just be lugs for a round tube.
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle...ess-steel.html
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You used to be able to purchase stem kits, and I thought with a teardrop stem.
This appears to just be lugs for a round tube.
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle...ess-steel.html
This appears to just be lugs for a round tube.
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle...ess-steel.html
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Saved by the BELL!!! That one says out of stock.
But fortunately there may be more at the bottom of this page.
https://www.framebuilding.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/lugs.htm
As long as you're sure it isn't going to fall apart, it would make a fun first project.
Then who knows, the next frame from scratch!!!
But fortunately there may be more at the bottom of this page.
https://www.framebuilding.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/lugs.htm
As long as you're sure it isn't going to fall apart, it would make a fun first project.
Then who knows, the next frame from scratch!!!
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https://velo-orange.com/collections/threadless-stems
The VO stems are chrome and come in 25.4 or 26.0 sizes so you could use a traditional flexible thin diameter handlebar to make the setup less 'fugly'.
The VO stems are chrome and come in 25.4 or 26.0 sizes so you could use a traditional flexible thin diameter handlebar to make the setup less 'fugly'.
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As evidenced by this thread, the best that you can get with a threadless stem is that it will be "not too fugly". There is no beauty in these things. The proportions are all wrong.
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Not necessarily, Nova Cycles distributes the stem lugs, any frame builder could make one.
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Dave Levy of TI Cycles makes a beautiful titanium threadless stem.
reasonably priced and very light !
I have one on my DiNucci and it is the shiznit
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ti-Cycles-T.../181705293393?
Mark Petry
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reasonably priced and very light !
I have one on my DiNucci and it is the shiznit
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ti-Cycles-T.../181705293393?
Mark Petry
Bainbridge Island, WA USA
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Not necessarily, Nova Cycles distributes the stem lugs, any frame builder could make one.
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Llewellyn are fabulous. A friend has a full custom Llewellyn frame. Don't read the next bit if you don't like sad stories... His brother was diagnosed with asbestosis, terminal. The brother, while in hospital asked my friend what the ultimate hand built bike was, and the full custom steel Llewellyn was it. The brother put in his will that his estate would pay for a hand built thing of beauty, and it is amazing. Next time I see him with the bike, I'll take some pics and put them up here.
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Ok I am on record and continue to be of the opinion that threadless stems are of a less than pleasing aesthetic (actually fugly is the term i tend to use)
however there is a remote possibility that I may have to eat these words and use one
Can any one show be some examples that fit the aesthetic of classic quill stems, i.e down sloping, not too massive .... I just can't do the deer horn look
thanks all
however there is a remote possibility that I may have to eat these words and use one
Can any one show be some examples that fit the aesthetic of classic quill stems, i.e down sloping, not too massive .... I just can't do the deer horn look
thanks all
Final question. What diameter bars (clamp area) are you looking to use with the proposed new stem?
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Older Ibis titanium stem, if you can find one (mine isn't for sale), and it'll fit the one-inch steerer and handlebars. Looks similar to the stems already shown in this thread. Low profile, could pass for quill at a glance if the steerer is cut short and uses minimal spacers. But it's straight, no way to adjust the bar upward or downward.
My Ibis is 110mm c-t-c, a little long and low for me while I'm still recovering from neck and shoulder injuries. So I've taken it off temporarily and put on a 90mm angled conventional chunky threadless stem and suitable fatter handlebar (FSA stem and Omega compact drop). If my neck and shoulder improve I may put the Ibis back on.
My Ibis is 110mm c-t-c, a little long and low for me while I'm still recovering from neck and shoulder injuries. So I've taken it off temporarily and put on a 90mm angled conventional chunky threadless stem and suitable fatter handlebar (FSA stem and Omega compact drop). If my neck and shoulder improve I may put the Ibis back on.
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Another one to look at is Fairweather. They are made by Nitto like Simworks, VO, etc, but have some different designs.
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...em-silver.html
I think these Nitto track stems are pretty cool. https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-ct-8...80_870/product
Generally speaking, I like threadless stems. IMO it is a far superior design mechanically. That counts for something with me. While many are ugly, some can be attractive. I'm very happy with my Nitto UI-21EX, which makes no apologies for its threadless-ness. Only took a little getting used to. Now I like how it looks. My gestalt shifts a little easier than most people my age I suspect.
Let's not forget the Rene Herse original type. One of the prettiest stems ever.
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...em-silver.html
I think these Nitto track stems are pretty cool. https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-ct-8...80_870/product
Generally speaking, I like threadless stems. IMO it is a far superior design mechanically. That counts for something with me. While many are ugly, some can be attractive. I'm very happy with my Nitto UI-21EX, which makes no apologies for its threadless-ness. Only took a little getting used to. Now I like how it looks. My gestalt shifts a little easier than most people my age I suspect.
Let's not forget the Rene Herse original type. One of the prettiest stems ever.
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The best threadless stems on my vintage rides are at the very least context dependent (aka with modern go-fast components and wheels usually), but my steadfast setup with them is right off the/on top of the headset to give it that threadless look. Round cross-section, in black, helps reduce the mass. I picked up a Velo Orange unit with an octagonal cross-section (more like a square with heavily chamfered corners that are nicely radiused). Polished. The chamfers really cut the mass out of the stem, especially as the polished nature grabs so much light. 26.0mm clamp keeps the handlebar end of things looking reasonable.








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