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joesch 12-08-19 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by joesch (Post 21237563)
I think more than a few are still sought after and holding good value including Tommasini, Pinarello, De Rosa, Bianchi, ... (atleast the high end models)


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 21237703)
Others can be a bit hit and miss. Merckx will likely slowly fade into history, while companies like Colnago will continue to sponsor racing teams and innovate on the cutting edge.


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 21237703)
My point was that I believe what the manufacture is doing today has an impact on what the vintage bikes are worth from that brand.

Agree and understand your point clearly now.

Wildwood 12-08-19 11:20 AM

I can't imagine selling my Corsa Extra SLX.
Value to me exceeds the market.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8398b3830.jpg


edit for serial number: they're everywhere, they're everywhere...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...00967e80e4.jpg
let me find one before the original owner did a CyclArt repaint. I got frameset w/ BB+HS.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a9c984fd84.png

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molten 12-08-19 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 21237303)
Last I heard, Eddy is alive and well.

I would guess so, once I did an internet search. BUT THEN WHY so so many in the cycling world speak in the context as if this person been of no further existence? As if this person cannot be consulted, even by vendors/manufacturers, for tech questions. We know how big names are relied on for research. (advancement of products, etc -- it was never spoken about that EM had to do with the carbon fiber)

Bianchigirll 12-08-19 11:38 AM

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-23-2015/Y5aO6H.gif

mstateglfr 12-08-19 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by thinktubes (Post 21237714)

win

shelbyfv 12-08-19 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by seypat (Post 21237666)
It could be that the OP is in a foreign land with a different language. He/she is having trouble transferring the thoughts to English.

Anything is possible:foo: Pretty sure it's just his shtick. Read his posts and you'll see he drops it occasionally. Jury is still out as to whether he's just having fun or is truly disturbed. The multiple, seemingly angry posts about the "friends" stealing bikes and trainers were a little much. As be Winter as such, if so continue to much more samely.

mstateglfr 12-08-19 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by molten (Post 21237741)
I would guess so, once I did an internet search. BUT THEN WHY so so many in the cycling world speak in the context as if this person been of no further existence? As if this person cannot be consulted, even by vendors/manufacturers, for tech questions. We know how big names are relied on for research. (advancement of products, etc -- it was never spoken about that EM had to do with the carbon fiber)

he was a racer- why would you expect him to be consulted on carbon fiber layup and advancmentnin product design?
and he is like mid70s at this point- maybe he doesnt own the brand anymore or consult in developing technology because in addition to not being an engineer, he doesnt want to work like that anymore?


Those are total guesses, but I would say they are reasonable.

mstateglfr 12-08-19 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 21237779)
Anything is possible:foo: Pretty sure it's just his shtick. Read his posts and you'll see he drops it occasionally. Jury is still out as to whether he's just having fun or is truly disturbed. The multiple, seemingly angry posts about the "friends" stealing bikes and trainers were a little much. As be Winter as such, if so continue to much more samely.

Ugh, it is that poster! I didnt even realize it's the same poster from that steel is real thread.
How absurd.
Thanks for pointing this out. Responding is not worth the time.

molten 12-08-19 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 21237804)
he was a racer- why would you expect him to be consulted on carbon fiber layup and advancmentnin product design?
and he is like mid70s at this point- maybe he doesnt own the brand anymore or consult in developing technology because in addition to not being an engineer, he doesnt want to work like that anymore?


Those are total guesses, but I would say they are reasonable.

Because he much idolized by who be the consumers. It is such who the business related sources want to make money from; I would think the business would endorse such -- the way the world had become. As that be generally how business society now operates.

repechage 12-08-19 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by molten (Post 21237808)
Because he much idolized by who be the consumers. It is such who the business related sources want to make money from; I would think the business would endorse such -- the way the world had become. As business want such.


There is an app to assist, grammarly.com

Barring a live editor.


The Merckx brand started out as only his own race bikes so adorned.

Later after a few World Championships and Grand Tour victories, just a set of graphics applied to bikes built by various licensees for different markets.

Good business. At the time, I thought lacking as to a bike that Eddy would have designed.

Post retirement he secured the help of Ugo DeRosa to help set up his factory in Eddy's home country.

That collaboration yielded at first one road racing bike, then others.

Often marketed as "century" geometry, essentially useful all day, predictable, helpful.

The company followed the material tends, including carbon fiber while Eddy was at the helm.

The brand had value, he decided to retire and sold it.

The bikes of the brand still have value, that value depends on the macro economic forces at play and consumer whims for both new and used product.

livedarklions 12-08-19 04:01 PM

Does op think that companies set the resale value of their former models?

chainwhip 12-08-19 06:17 PM

+1
 

Originally Posted by thinktubes (Post 21237714)

This graphic needs a sticky.^^^
Fantastic.


Q: Do we have a typo?

Is the OP's handle really "Molteni"??
Is it really Eddy driving up prices on NOS frames??

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...897fd010bf.jpg

shelbyfv 12-08-19 06:31 PM

We may never know....

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...50682ed5fb.png

nlerner 12-08-19 06:51 PM

Some people say that Eddie gets one American dollar every time his name is mentioned on the Internets.

Mad Honk 12-08-19 07:49 PM

And my question: Who here in C&V wouldn't want an original EM? Smiles, MH

cudak888 12-08-19 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 21238191)
We may never know....

Well, it looks like the Molten Team frames just got downgraded.

-Kurt

nomadmax 12-09-19 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 21238191)

Good riddance.

gearbasher 12-09-19 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 21238219)
Some people say that Eddie gets one American dollar every time his name is mentioned on the Internets.

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I just wanted to buy him dinner.

seypat 12-09-19 09:22 AM

Maybe the OP should have watched some Samurai Jack. Then he could have wowed us with dialogue like this. Or some of that stuff Oswald Bates spouted.


Ferrouscious 12-09-19 11:14 AM

Could the nutjobs that seep through the cracks come when I'm out riding my bike? Thanks.

shelbyfv 12-09-19 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Ferrouscious (Post 21239018)
nutjobs that seep through the cracks

It's sad, but seems here they just walk through the front door.:troll:

cudak888 12-09-19 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 21239527)
It's sad, but seems here they just walk through the front door.:troll:

Better than up the back door with their pickup trucks.

-Kurt

cb400bill 12-09-19 05:24 PM

We have had enough of this.

Thread closed.


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