A thread for uncommon and above average mixtes and step throughs!
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In a similar vein, mrs non-fixie's Blouson. Designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro and made by Bridgestone. Some more details here. Not a lightweight by any measure, but mrs non-fixie has successfully 'glided' to work on it a couple of times.
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i will respect the ThreadStarter.
but this 81/82 AustroDaimler Michelle is a lowly HiTen frame.
it has been misplaced, underwanted and orphaned. I am in the midst of trying to find it a place in the familys group (the wife has preliminarily rejected it).
Pictured saddle height would be mine. Unsure of stem/bars, but here is an upright position with Nittos tall&short stem and Origin 8 Tiki bar.
Never really had an upright bike as an adult, so uncharted territory for me. Has floppy handling at slow speed given large wheelbase.
I have a silver rear rack that could go on it, black fenders, too. This is a bike for 27" wheels. I won't invest in wide 700c tires.
edit: i should mention this bike, less a few bits came to me thru a Forum member west of Chicago -- thanks, trying to do it justice.

and a schmidgen of little box lining on the seat tube. Lipstick for a pretty lady. Puch2500 f&f.

very clean, garage queen.
edit: all metal Simplex RD
but this 81/82 AustroDaimler Michelle is a lowly HiTen frame.

it has been misplaced, underwanted and orphaned. I am in the midst of trying to find it a place in the familys group (the wife has preliminarily rejected it).
Pictured saddle height would be mine. Unsure of stem/bars, but here is an upright position with Nittos tall&short stem and Origin 8 Tiki bar.
Never really had an upright bike as an adult, so uncharted territory for me. Has floppy handling at slow speed given large wheelbase.
I have a silver rear rack that could go on it, black fenders, too. This is a bike for 27" wheels. I won't invest in wide 700c tires.
edit: i should mention this bike, less a few bits came to me thru a Forum member west of Chicago -- thanks, trying to do it justice.

and a schmidgen of little box lining on the seat tube. Lipstick for a pretty lady. Puch2500 f&f.

very clean, garage queen.
edit: all metal Simplex RD
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From: Chicago, the leafy NW side
Bikes: 1974 Motobecane Grand Record, 1987 Miyata Pro, 1988 Bob Jackson Lady Mixte (wife's), others in the family

Wife's Bob Jackson 'Lady Mixte' c early 80s, nearing completion. The frame came from Miami Jim here and I built it up for my wife's birthday, though it wasn't actually done for some time. Somehow she was nonplussed when I showed her the bare frame!
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Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Most of the bikes pictured above are various styles of "step through" frames not "Mixtes".
We were told by a reliable source back in the 70's that Mixte frames were developed for the French army BITD because one size fit most and they could carry a lot of weight. Never saw a confirmation of this.
Not a Mixte but a French Army Machine Gun Bike:

We sold Gitanes and Bertins in the 70's. Most French mixtes frames were made in 50cm, 54cm, and 57cm sizes. The 57cm frames had what was the equivalent of very long top tubes at least 60cm.
Oddly enough, most of the Mixtes we sold were purchased by older men who couldn't swing their legs over a diamond frame.
We were located a few blocks from a university campus. Most of the young women that needed a smaller frame size like that afforded by a Mixte were highly insulted when we showed them a bike that they could actually ride because they were blinded by the then developing women's movement ideology. They wanted a "boy's" bike, not a "girls" bike!


I put this flicker album together a number of years ago for an online discussion about mixtes:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/282672...57624757110832
In the mid 70's we had Andre Bertin build us 48cm frames with a low standover height that took sewups or 700x20c wheels for just customers who required smaller sized frames. Unlike most small frames that handled like wheelbarrows, these rode and handled like larger sized bikes.


verktyg
We were told by a reliable source back in the 70's that Mixte frames were developed for the French army BITD because one size fit most and they could carry a lot of weight. Never saw a confirmation of this.
Not a Mixte but a French Army Machine Gun Bike:

We sold Gitanes and Bertins in the 70's. Most French mixtes frames were made in 50cm, 54cm, and 57cm sizes. The 57cm frames had what was the equivalent of very long top tubes at least 60cm.
Oddly enough, most of the Mixtes we sold were purchased by older men who couldn't swing their legs over a diamond frame.
We were located a few blocks from a university campus. Most of the young women that needed a smaller frame size like that afforded by a Mixte were highly insulted when we showed them a bike that they could actually ride because they were blinded by the then developing women's movement ideology. They wanted a "boy's" bike, not a "girls" bike!



I put this flicker album together a number of years ago for an online discussion about mixtes:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/282672...57624757110832
In the mid 70's we had Andre Bertin build us 48cm frames with a low standover height that took sewups or 700x20c wheels for just customers who required smaller sized frames. Unlike most small frames that handled like wheelbarrows, these rode and handled like larger sized bikes.


verktyg


True that, here's a guide to suss it out, the OP did ask for step thru's as well.
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). But having failed in the past, this effort had to have an alternative plan -- for me!
So, presto chango = old man's mixte. But new to upright riding, so having component/positioning debate. edit: i mentioned my desires in this Forum last summer, and a Chicago area member had such a bike with a few things missing.
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Bikes: Old Simon bike that I just bought on a whim.
Simon French berceau style bicycle
[MENTION=399166]thumpism[/MENTION] encouraged me to post pictures of my junk shop bike project here, so I am. The make is Simon, based in Troyes in France. The date appears to be around 1984.
I am a complete novice but I loved the shape and the attention to detail. Even the original dynamo lights still work.
Enjoy
Gill


Wingnuts

Front brakes.

Gears to be repaired
I am a complete novice but I loved the shape and the attention to detail. Even the original dynamo lights still work.
Enjoy
Gill


Wingnuts

Front brakes.

Gears to be repaired
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Is that a bike, or a Mobius strip with a derailleur attached?
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#37
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Probably the nicest frame in mrs non-fixie's stable. Early eighties DeVos, built with Super Vitus tubing. Light and stiff and well-liked by its owner. Got a good workout last year too.
Prepped for the RetroRonde and Eroica Limburg, with 30mm Challenge Strada Bianca tires for the cobbles in Belgium and the rough stuff in Limburg:

With 28mm Paselas and fenders for a touring vacation in Tuscany:
Prepped for the RetroRonde and Eroica Limburg, with 30mm Challenge Strada Bianca tires for the cobbles in Belgium and the rough stuff in Limburg:

With 28mm Paselas and fenders for a touring vacation in Tuscany:
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Great old Motobecane Mixte that I took out of a summer home basement...not ridden for so many years...my family rode the crap out of this bike...one day I noticed that the paint just started to fleck off and a beautiful chrome frame was emerging...we never hurried the inevitable along...I may at some time...

A great riding old bike...









A great riding old bike...








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These 2 are my wife's. The Motobecane is a low level Nomade Sprint, but in a unique color. I believe a 1974. I upgraded with alloy rims, 12-speed gearing and new derailleurs. Rides very well. The Centurion is a 1984, one of the few mixtes made with downtube shifters. Cleaned up and serviced, its s great bike. Down the road I will probably add new brake hoods to both and maybe alloy bars/stem for the Moto.


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I'm kind of proud of the one I made for my wife.


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I suppose I should update this thread I started with the final product of the bike I initially mentioned in the OP. I put these photos in a few other threads but since this one popped back up...






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Nice to see this thread back on page one!
I guess this would fit here as well. Not a step-through in the strictest sense, but designed for people who wanted the riding qualities of a double diamond frame as well as a lower stand-over height. With those same people in mind the frame was also made a little shorter than the average double diamond frame.
Designed in the seventies by the then twenty-something Francis Quillon for Albert Metayer's Méral brand and patented, so it couldn't be copied by other manufacturers.
I guess this would fit here as well. Not a step-through in the strictest sense, but designed for people who wanted the riding qualities of a double diamond frame as well as a lower stand-over height. With those same people in mind the frame was also made a little shorter than the average double diamond frame.
Designed in the seventies by the then twenty-something Francis Quillon for Albert Metayer's Méral brand and patented, so it couldn't be copied by other manufacturers.
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[MENTION=177076]orcas island[/MENTION] has a beautiful Follis Berceau. Last I knew it was for sale; but if he still has it perhaps he could post a couple of photos here.
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polymorphself, that Nishiki turned out really well! I like the finish and the paint on that bike. Really classy. Getting rid of the spoke protector and reflectors was a wise decision, as it helps focus on the bike itself and and highlight the beautiful details. Well done!













