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billytwosheds 03-16-20 08:47 PM
Frame ID help request: "Z" or "N" panto
 
Aloha All-

A local cycling instructor made a few donations to the coop, and I'm not sure what this one is.

Has some DA parts leftover but was converted to SS. Lugwork looks nice.

Serial # 51062

Any help would be graciously accepted.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...43019a9ac6.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...75ce05cb43.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...feee664ea2.jpg

evwxxx 03-16-20 11:03 PM
Zullo?

unworthy1 03-17-20 02:13 AM
Originally Posted by evwxxx (Post 21370690)
Zullo?
don't think so, He did change up his graphics using several styles over the years but never saw this symbol on any Zullo. However I know this logo has cropped up once before but can't for the life of me recall if it got ID'd or what it was! Maybe somebody who remembers better will chime in.

Chombi1 03-17-20 02:27 AM
Someone might recognize those unique seat stay tips.

P!N20 03-17-20 05:01 AM
Paging MauriceMoss

Hudson308 03-17-20 06:45 AM
Looks Japanese to my eye. What brand are the dropouts?

cleroica 03-17-20 07:48 AM
I was gonna say Zunow, but a quick google search showed that their pantographing was a bit more detailed than just a "Z". The seat stay tips on this frame have a very cool look to them.

bwilli88 03-17-20 08:28 AM
Originally Posted by cleroica (Post 21370937)
I was gonna say Zunow, but a quick google search showed that their pantographing was a bit more detailed than just a "Z". The seat stay tips on this frame have a very cool look to them.
Not Zunow, He always had a hummingbird on the seat stay caps
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...df4f86b73f.jpg

cleroica 03-17-20 08:40 AM
Originally Posted by bwilli88 (Post 21371004)
Not Zunow, He always had a hummingbird on the seat stay caps
After my Google search of Zunow pantographing, I kind of want one.

billytwosheds 03-17-20 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Hudson308 (Post 21370862)
Looks Japanese to my eye. What brand are the dropouts?
Rear dropouts are Shimano, and I'm assuming a Japanese builder too.

​​​​​​T-Mar ?

billytwosheds 03-17-20 12:11 PM
This Zullo marque looks similar...but not quite.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...af17241416.jpg

obrentharris 03-17-20 02:05 PM
Nakagawa

Brent

obrentharris 03-17-20 02:07 PM
https://i0.wp.com/www.kansaiscene.co...ges1.jpg?ssl=1

Brent

cleroica 03-17-20 02:09 PM
… and it was an "N" all along. I didn't realize Nakagawa made road frames. I have seen some gorgeous Keirin frames from them.

mgopack42 03-17-20 02:11 PM
WINNER!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e5bb460fea.jpg

billytwosheds 03-17-20 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by obrentharris (Post 21371539)
Nakagawa

Brent
Ding ding ding. Thanks Brent.

unworthy1 03-17-20 09:26 PM
Great work, Brent! :thumb:


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