Vintage Wizard bicycle
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It is also possible that these geometry variations are based on building inconsistencies. Some time ago there was a private email group that owned Italian Masis and there were variations between frames that were obviously not planned. Also there can be measuring variations based on whatever method was used. As a framebuilder I would be interested in the methods used to make the frames. This information can be well hidden.
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It is also possible that these geometry variations are based on building inconsistencies. Some time ago there was a private email group that owned Italian Masis and there were variations between frames that were obviously not planned. Also there can be measuring variations based on whatever method was used. As a framebuilder I would be interested in the methods used to make the frames. This information can be well hidden.
The jig frames imported from Italy were not all usable. Maybe there was a reason that the frames built under Falerio's watch at Carlsbad are in the middle size ranges, Masi Measure 57, 56, 58. (maybe around for the 59's)
Brian Baylis reported and I saw the same, forks were brazed up with straight blades, the rake was introduced after, a nice stout little fixture, hooked the dropouts, long cheater tube over the steerer and persuade them into shape.
There was a check gauge for evaluating the resultant parabolic curve, but it did not look to me much more than a check of fairness of form.
Brian mentioned the Falerio added an extra umph at the end to crank a bit more at the crown. I visited after Falerio had returned to Italy.
the rear triangles I saw went together with the dropout brazed to the chainstay, filed clean, then the seat stay brazed in - obviously an angle was set or known for that batch.
Chainstays were added after the main triangle was together. I was told the seat stays to seat lug were last. At the times I was there, done by Mario. I guessed the reheating of the seatlug was late enough in the process that scrapping a frame would be costly. I did not ask when the rear bridge was added or the chainstay bridge.
Mario appeared to inspect any brazed sub assemblies, and the reject can was not empty.
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Bikes: American Classics made by the Masters: Brian Baylis, Wolf, Wizard, Masi, Confente, Fuso, Keith Lippy, Smolenski, to name a few.
David,
Do you know of any Richard Moon bicycles around that might be available or would you condier selling yours?
I live in San Luis Obispo, California
Jim Gerpheide 805-234-1036
Do you know of any Richard Moon bicycles around that might be available or would you condier selling yours?
I live in San Luis Obispo, California
Jim Gerpheide 805-234-1036
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Bikes: American Classics made by the Masters: Brian Baylis, Wolf, Wizard, Masi, Confente, Fuso, Keith Lippy, Smolenski, to name a few.
Wizard-Can you see the serial number on the bottom bracket area
not many Wizards were made and only a few that exist... less than 20...
This looks like one of the very early ones! Check the serial number on the bottom bracket.
I have 5 Wizards including #3 and the very last one that Brian made. His frames are masterpieces. All unique and special.
The last one I found was at a garage sale!
Jim
This looks like one of the very early ones! Check the serial number on the bottom bracket.
I have 5 Wizards including #3 and the very last one that Brian made. His frames are masterpieces. All unique and special.
The last one I found was at a garage sale!
Jim
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not many Wizards were made and only a few that exist... less than 20...
This looks like one of the very early ones! Check the serial number on the bottom bracket.
I have 5 Wizards including #3 and the very last one that Brian made. His frames are masterpieces. All unique and special.
The last one I found was at a garage sale!
Jim
This looks like one of the very early ones! Check the serial number on the bottom bracket.
I have 5 Wizards including #3 and the very last one that Brian made. His frames are masterpieces. All unique and special.
The last one I found was at a garage sale!
Jim
i can account for 4, no idea where two went after the original owner, dark blue- handsome bikes but the original owner cut the steerer too short for a Shimano headset - way short- he had Art Stump drill the top cup for a set screw to hold it together. As it was a track bike it to the best of my knowledge worked. An O ring covered the raw steerer end.
#31
on the subject of "Wizards: Where Are They Now?"...
At the 2016 Classic Rendezvous gathering, there was a display in memory of Brian Baylis. Among the other bikes he had built, there were two Wizards on display. Here are a few photos of them...
the Blue with Yellow Wizard...





...and let me do the other Wizard in another post.....
Steve in Peoria
At the 2016 Classic Rendezvous gathering, there was a display in memory of Brian Baylis. Among the other bikes he had built, there were two Wizards on display. Here are a few photos of them...
the Blue with Yellow Wizard...





...and let me do the other Wizard in another post.....
Steve in Peoria
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Bikes: American Classics made by the Masters: Brian Baylis, Wolf, Wizard, Masi, Confente, Fuso, Keith Lippy, Smolenski, to name a few.
Would you be interested in selling this Wizard bike?
Jim/ San Luis Obispo California
Jim/ San Luis Obispo California
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Bikes: American Classics made by the Masters: Brian Baylis, Wolf, Wizard, Masi, Confente, Fuso, Keith Lippy, Smolenski, to name a few.
I am interested in your dads Wizard. Can you send me some pictures and a description.
My e mail is j1gerpheide@yahoo.com
cell # 805-234-1036
Thank you
Jim Gerpheide
My e mail is j1gerpheide@yahoo.com
cell # 805-234-1036
Thank you
Jim Gerpheide
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Bikes: American Classics made by the Masters: Brian Baylis, Wolf, Wizard, Masi, Confente, Fuso, Keith Lippy, Smolenski, to name a few.
Please call or text me at 805-234-1036 I am in San Luis Obispo California
Thank you
Jim
Thank you
Jim
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Bikes: American Classics made by the Masters: Brian Baylis, Wolf, Wizard, Masi, Confente, Fuso, Keith Lippy, Smolenski, to name a few.
A few Wizards that I ride and show off a little
Can you call or text me at 805-234-1036 or e-mail j1gerpheide@yahoo.com I would like to talk with you about your Wizard










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Baylis’ bikes are pure art. Just amazing.
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