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Old 07-15-20, 08:31 PM
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Miyata 1000 project

I just bought the bike today.
It is a future project.
Is anything that I should know about the bike, like "the bad"?



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Yep, total junk. I'll pick it up tomorrow so you don't waste your time on this one...


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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj View Post
Yep, total junk. I'll pick it up tomorrow so you don't waste your time on this one...


I'll make you a package deal with the other touring bike, laying around. It is Schwinn Voyageur SP.
or maybe you like more the Prologue or the Superior?
I don't know from where so many Schwinns, I am not a Schwinn guy
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Originally Posted by marius.suiram View Post
Is anything that I should know about the bike, like "the bad"?
Yeah, keep it locked up. Excellent condition, lovely paint. A size lots of folks like. Kirkland bag is very good. You've got those nice hooks at the bottom of the rear rack for securing C'dale bags to the bike. You've done very well. Now, start planning a 2 week ride.

BTW? My Kirkland bag has a bungee cord n hook on each side. Each hook reaches to the eye at the fork DO. Shock absorber to keep the bag stable when going over bumps. Does your bag have those? If not, you could figure out how to add them.
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The only work that bike needs other than a general inspection/tuneup is checking the bearings to see if the grease is still OK and inspecting the tires for safety.
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Looks barely ridden.
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
Looks barely ridden.
That's what I was thinking, worried that those might be original old tires and maybe even those awful Panaracer Radial tires.

Bikes don't handle right with radial tires on either the front or the rear wheel.

But cool bike, what's the top tube length?

I recently found a Univega Specialissima that is a close relative to the 1000 but with AGC450 caliper brakes. It turned out to have fairly slack geometry and only a 55cm toptube in the 57/58cm frame size, so I won't be riding it.
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That's what I was thinking, worried that those might be original old tires and maybe even those awful Panaracer Radial tires.

Bikes don't handle right with radial tires on either the front or the rear wheel.

But cool bike, what's the top tube length?

I recently found a Univega Specialissima that is a close relative to the 1000 but with AGC450 caliper brakes. It turned out to have fairly slack geometry and only a 55cm toptube in the 57/58cm frame size, so I won't be riding it.
Those are the original Miyata radial tires, still soft.
The top tube length is like 58 cm C-C
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Originally Posted by Prowler View Post
Yeah, keep it locked up. Excellent condition, lovely paint. A size lots of folks like. Kirkland bag is very good. You've got those nice hooks at the bottom of the rear rack for securing C'dale bags to the bike. You've done very well. Now, start planning a 2 week ride.

BTW? My Kirkland bag has a bungee cord n hook on each side. Each hook reaches to the eye at the fork DO. Shock absorber to keep the bag stable when going over bumps. Does your bag have those? If not, you could figure out how to add them.
I need to check the bags/panniers the guy gave them to me
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The bad? I donít think there was any..

Isnít the Miyata 1000 the Cadillac of vintage touring bikes?
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Originally Posted by tyler_fred View Post
The bad? I donít think there was any..

Isnít the Miyata 1000 the Cadillac of vintage touring bikes?
I think the Sheldon Brown recommendation really did wonders for the reputation of this bike. And the fact that it maintained production in Japan for at least until after 1991 with top and 2nd level components really speaks to how Miyata perceived the bike.

It's absolutely an excellent, top tier bike. I don't know that I'd say an 85/86 M1000 is "better" than an 84/85 Trek 720.

Any Miyata 1000 is a bike to gush about.
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Can't imagine any "bad" unless you didn't like the color scheme. It's part of the holy touring trinity: Miyata 1000/Trek 720/Specialized Expedition. And yours is pristine.
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All of those bikes plus the Specialissima and Pro-Tour have their own fit parameters and geometry, and that is further subject to model year variances.

Finding one that fits one's needs is sure to make a keeper out of it.

The Trek 720 has the cushiest Cadillac ride that I've tried, the Pro-Tour is the most nimble and sporting.
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All of those bikes plus the Specialissima and Pro-Tour have their own fit parameters and geometry, and that is further subject to model year variances.

Finding one that fits one's needs is sure to make a keeper out of it.

The Trek 720 has the cushiest Cadillac ride that I've tried, the Pro-Tour is the most nimble and sporting.
I'd be interested to know where the Voyageur falls in there. I've heard on the sportier side maybe. Which I guess makes them all that way? Or is it just when compared to the 720?
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Miyata is pure junk (however, my shipping address is....)

Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
Any Miyata 1000 is a bike to gush about.
Personally I'd say any reasonable level Miyata in good shape is worth gushing about. The great thing is thet my 610 is a similar bike
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I'd be interested to know where the Voyageur falls in there. I've heard on the sportier side maybe. Which I guess makes them all that way? Or is it just when compared to the 720?
My 86 Voyageur and 84 Voyageur SP had very similar feels- I no longer have the Voyageur- but still have the VSP. The fit is VERY different than the M1000LT or the 620 or 720. I would definitely say sportier- I think because they feel smaller. I think the STA is much steeper than other touring bikes.

I would say my 85 620 is the most "Cadillac Eldorado" ride out of the tourers I've ridden.
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I had a 720, mint condition, too tall, sold.
I had a 620, nice, my size, sold this year.
I had a Pro Tour, mint, mint condition, my size, sold. I should kept it...
but I still have a Voyageur SP too big, with a stuck seat post and a 720 almost my size, ugly and with a rusty top tube.
I am riding now a 81 Super Sport, excellent condition, and I sold the 2nd identical bike a month ago. Actually I had 3 of them, I donate one to my friend a year ago.
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The only bad thing I see is that Biopace ring.

That's one beautiful bicycle. Enjoy it and wear out many tires and chains riding it.
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Stunning bike! Congratulations - hope to see you and it out touring somewhere.
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Originally Posted by marius.suiram View Post
I had a 720, mint condition, too tall, sold.
I had a 620, nice, my size, sold this year.
I had a Pro Tour, mint, mint condition, my size, sold. I should kept it...
but I still have a Voyageur SP too big, with a stuck seat post and a 720 almost my size, ugly and with a rusty top tube.
I am riding now a 81 Super Sport, excellent condition, and I sold the 2nd identical bike a month ago. Actually I had 3 of them, I donate one to my friend a year ago.
I don't know if I should tell you to stop getting rid of bikes or stop buying bikes What size/year SP?
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Stuck seatpost

Originally Posted by marius.suiram View Post
I had a 720, mint condition, too tall, sold.
I had a 620, nice, my size, sold this year.
I had a Pro Tour, mint, mint condition, my size, sold. I should kept it...
but I still have a Voyageur SP too big, with a stuck seat post
The seatpost can be removed, with some work, thus wrecking the seatpost but salvaging the bike otherwise.
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I don't know if I should tell you to stop getting rid of bikes or stop buying bikes What size/year SP?
The SP is 1985, 64 cm
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Stunning bike! Congratulations - hope to see you and it out touring somewhere.
The longest ride was around 40 miles, in the Valley.
I didn't have the possibility to make a longer trip.
I'm working 6 days a week and the children prefer to play tennis than biking.
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Yep, total junk. I'll pick it up tomorrow so you don't waste your time on this one...


same! Hahaa =)
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I'll make you a package deal with the other touring bike, laying around. It is Schwinn Voyageur SP.
or maybe you like more the Prologue or the Superior?
I don't know from where so many Schwinns, I am not a Schwinn guy
That 1000 looks to be a 60cm, which (thankfully) is too large for me or I'd be tempted - and if I already didn't have a dedicated touring bike in my size already (the Uni Gran Tourismo). Or my old Fuji that I did tour on BITD.....

The last thing I need is more bikes! I still have six of my own - despite giving away three others last month -- plus I have the '88 Miyata 610 that I'm re-habbing for my niece...
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