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Originally Posted by BFisher
(Post 21821310)
Only bike I currently own with the stripes is my Colnago, and DD beat me to it. So, I'm just gonna post my socks. Love that Mooney, [MENTION=111424]Rocket-Sauce[/MENTION].
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Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 21821394)
ya know, in the70’s in the USA- the official would ask you to get plain white socks if you were entering a race
At least, that's what I tell myself. Here's one from the archive - my since sold Peugeot UO-8: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9ff1c0863.jpg |
The stripes are doing double duty on my Stella. They milked Louison Bobet's accomplishments for all they could get.
https://live.staticflickr.com/850/43...b2148c23_b.jpg On my 1973 De Rosa they seem to be claiming the stripes early. Eddy had a couple of world championships by then and was riding a De Rosa, but I don't think he rode a De Rosa to a World Championship until 1974. Mine is a repaint, so it could be bad decaling, but I've seen a couple of others De Rosas claimed to be from 1973 that have the stripes and what looks like original paint. https://live.staticflickr.com/4395/3...cd45d86f_b.jpg LeMond seems to have demonstrated that the stripes follow the rider, not necessarily the builder. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2f68bfbe_o.jpg And, Masi, well, they can probably do whatever they want, including claiming the same year twice. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9710cb20_c.jpg |
A couple of shots of Roland Della Santa and his frames at two NAHBS events....
https://live.staticflickr.com/3451/3...223a8a_c_d.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/8716/1...cc8e10_c_d.jpg I'm assuming it was for LeMond's win on his bikes? Steve in Peoria |
84 Chas Roberts
https://i.ibb.co/55Sf4nb/20201015-143749.jpg |
Here's a classic flex from Atala (Urs Frehler, winning basically every WC Points Race in the 80s)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...937d356bdb.jpg |
Ernesto must have been extremely proud of the rainbow since it is in every decal!
https://live.staticflickr.com/5546/1...1ae1b76e_b.jpgP1000519 on Flickr If the Pinarello had them, they fell off! The 1988 De Rosa Pro does not have them The 1973 Bottecchia has them, or should: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a2863c03_b.jpgP1030103 on Flickr |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 21821394)
ya know, in the70’s in the USA- the official would ask you to get plain white socks if you were entering a race
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Originally Posted by Mr. Spadoni
(Post 21821173)
OK, say a bike was built for a rider, but was ridden to a championship under another brand. Does the builder get to use the colors?
This loophole is made possible by the discrepancy between the World Championship year and the contract year. The World Championships traditionally take place during the last week of August or the first week of September. Consequently, a World Champion's one year reign typically spans two partial calendar years. However, rider contracts are typically calendar year based. After a rider has become World Champion it is quite common for them to switch teams to obtain a more lucrative salary for the upcoming season/calendar year. They take the rainbow jersey with them to the new team and if the bicycle sponsor has changed, that new bicycle brand gets to wear the rainbow stripes, even though it wasn't ridden to victory at the last World Championships. Also, I don't how many of you have noticed this but even past World Champions get to wear the rainbow stripes in sanctioned races. It's not as prominent as the reigning World Champion, but in recognition of their past accomplishment, previous World Champions are permitted to display the rainbow stripes on the collar and/or cuffs of their team jerseys. Here's a photo of Hinault displaying the rainbow stripes of the cuffs of his jersey. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...334b9f7338.jpg |
Speaking of De Rosas, this was always a weird one - WC stripes, but with years representing Eddy Merckx's three Super Prestige Pernod (precursor to the World Cup/World Tour) titles on it. Not to mention the "Arc-en-cil"- maybe referencing his 1974 title?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4077c27e4c.png (Also infamous for causing a bunch of early 80s De Rosa Professionals to be called "Super Prestiges" |
Also applies to reigning national champions - as seen by Larry Warbasse here. (this seems to be one of a few accepted ways to display a former US title - another is just having the flag repeat as a band around the cuff) https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1fea5a0429.jpg The pro-level European title is fairly new but "Euro stripes" seem to be a thing as well. |
Since we have seen socks and jerseys, I'll add a saddle.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...273d1488b.jpeg |
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Not sure what would have been the justification for them on a 1979 Miyata 912. They were a bit more visible - two full circumference seat tube bands - on several other models in the ‘79 lineup according to the catalog photos.
https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...0Catalogue.pdf https://photos.smugmug.com/Bicycles/...9_235210-M.jpg |
OK, to resurrect/boost this thread, I have a question for the BF hive mind.
Is it ok to ask a frame builder who earned them their rainbow? Also... POST MORE PICS please! |
Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 21821841)
Also, I don't how many of you have noticed this but even past World Champions get to wear the rainbow stripes in sanctioned races. It's not as prominent as the reigning World Champion, but in recognition of their past accomplishment, previous World Champions are permitted to display the rainbow stripes on the collar and/or cuffs of their team jerseys. Here's a photo of Hinault displaying the rainbow stripes of the cuffs of his jersey.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...334b9f7338.jpg https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Bu...24-80.jpg.webp |
Originally Posted by Dfrost
(Post 21826357)
Not sure what would have been the justification for them on a 1979 Miyata 912. They were a bit more visible - two full circumference seat tube bands - on several other models in the ‘79 lineup according to the catalog photos.
https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...0Catalogue.pdf https://photos.smugmug.com/Bicycles/...9_235210-M.jpg |
I always wondered what discipline Norco earned the stripes on the headtube of this 1985 touring bike.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c88f926f8b.jpg |
^^Obviously a World Champion at Touring!
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
(Post 21821139)
(Sorry, pic was taken to show rear rack support piece) https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9b0c752fbf.jpg |
Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
(Post 22035899)
I believe there is a weird rule that it must be at the cuff of the sleeves. Tony Martin and Tom Demoulin were fined at last year's Tour for wearing long sleeves that had the rainbow printed on the sleeve mid bicep (ie where they would be if he were wearing short sleeves).
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Bu...24-80.jpg.webp https://i0.wp.com/outdoormayhem.onli...24576831-1.jpg |
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Are the rules similar to those governing riders? Ie you can only put stripes on a frame built for the discipline that won the rainbow? Ie can a touring bike have rainbow stripes if the maker won in a road race? Or TT? Mtb xc? Downhill? etc?
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
(Post 22036375)
Are the rules similar to those governing riders? Ie you can only put stripes on a frame built for the discipline that won the rainbow? Ie can a touring bike have rainbow stripes if the maker won in a road race? Or TT? Mtb xc? Downhill? etc?
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Originally Posted by Dfrost
(Post 21826357)
Not sure what would have been the justification for them on a 1979 Miyata 912. They were a bit more visible - two full circumference seat tube bands - on several other models in the ‘79 lineup according to the catalog photos...
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Originally Posted by daverup
(Post 22036315)
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Here's a page from an Ishiwata catalog with two results that have always perplexed me.
First, it clearly states that the 1973 pro road race was won on a frame built with an Ishiwata 017 tubeset. Now, the 1973 winner of that race was Felice Gimondi on a Bianchi. It's definitely Gimondi's victory, as it states the location, Barcelona. Bianchi even named their new top model the Specialissima Barcelona after Gimondi's victory. Only slightly less startling is the claim for the pro cyclo-cross World Championships. Again, the location leaves no doubt that it refers to Albert Van Damme's victory. He won on a Gitane. While the Europeans would eventually realize the merits of Japanese tubing, it seems unimaginable that Bianchi and Gitane would select anything other than Columbus or Reynolds during this era. And while there was some questionable Japanese to English translation back in the day, these seen very straight forward and leave nothing to interpretation. If the claims are true, I foresee a lot of blood covered celeste and suicidal Frenchman. Psst, nobody tell Bianchigirll or verktyg. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5d0105e99.jpg |
Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 22036994)
That is completely out of order of the stripe on the UCI rainbow. I wonder if it was an intentional attempt to avoid the trademark.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
(Post 22036217)
By Terry, if I'm not mistaken. There's one on a Raleigh frame in the co-op's dumpster. I keep meaning to go back for it.
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