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Rocket-Sauce 12-05-20 05:30 PM

Rainbow stripes on frames: also SHOW YOUR BIKES WITH RAINBOW STRIPES!
 
What are the rules, if any, governing putting World Champion rainbow stripes on a bike frame? If a rider wins a WC, does that mean the frame builder can put the stripes on their frames?

If I see a frame with rainbow stripes, does that mean the maker had someone win while riding one of their bikes?

Also, since no thread is any good without pictures, here is my example:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1060de4dea.jpg

Spaghetti Legs 12-05-20 05:34 PM

The general rule, as I understand it, is if a bike brand was ridden to a World Championship, the stripes are allowed. Most of the time I’ve seen them on head tube and seat tube.

Bianchigirll 12-05-20 05:36 PM

That is my understanding. If a sponsored rider wins a WC race their bikes carry the stripes.

I believe some companies use the colors in a slightly different order if they rate the rainbow

thinktubes 12-05-20 06:42 PM

Onaschwinn

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...af8517b6_k.jpg

Pompiere 12-05-20 06:43 PM

Blue, Red, Black, Yellow, Green is the official UCI order, but I have seen variations on other bikes to get around the rules. Some change the order, others add a black or white line between the colors. Velocals has several examples: https://velocals.com/stripes-chevrons-bands/

merziac 12-05-20 07:37 PM

Has the order, usage changed overtime, can it be somewhat dated by the order? :foo:

Seems like if it has a company would keep the order of the time.

Kilroy1988 12-05-20 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21820186)
Has the order, usage changed overtime, can it be somewhat dated by the order? :foo:

Seems like if it has a company would keep the order of the time.

As Pompiere pointed out, the order would be switched by bicycle manufacturers to circumvent the rules, not because the official order of the stripes was changing. For example, that Schwinn does not follow the UCI order so is only meant to mimic the idea of the championship stripes. The color arrangement of the Olympic rings is also a popular one to copy. That's blue, yellow, black, green, and red.

-Gregory

Kilroy1988 12-05-20 08:13 PM

https://www.uci.org/docs/default-sou...ng_neutral.pdf

"The rainbow stripes. The UCI rainbow colour chart reproduced below is a registered Trade Mark of the UCI. It is protected in numerouscountries around the World. It is internationally known as the stripes of colors blue, red, black, yellow and green that areassociated with the UCI events and the Cycling World Champions."

"The rule is simple: if you are not expressly authorized to use any of the aforementioned assets, don't use them! The UCI and the UCI-appointed Organizing Committee will systematically take the necessary steps to make sure that their rights are being respected and that unauthorized use, if any,will be stopped."

merziac 12-05-20 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 (Post 21820226)
As Pompiere pointed out, the order would be switched by bicycle manufacturers to circumvent the rules, not because the official order of the stripes was changing. For example, that Schwinn does not follow the UCI order so is only meant to mimic the idea of the championship stripes. The color arrangement of the Olympic rings is also a popular one to copy. That's blue, yellow, black, green, and red.

-Gregory

I understand all that.

So the order and usage rules and regs have been the same since inception?

I doubt that UCI was there when the practice started.

mstateglfr 12-05-20 08:30 PM

Thats a nice looking Mooney.
Aggressive setup...curious tire choice for speed.

clubman 12-05-20 08:41 PM

Reg Harris won 4 World titles in the decade before this Raleigh Superbe was made. The stripes are incorrect.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6cd8ba6533.jpg

Kilroy1988 12-05-20 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21820245)
I doubt that UCI was there when the practice started.

The UCI came around in the year 1900 and the rainbow jersey with the UCI stripes first appeared in 1927. Whether there are older examples of "championship" style stripes on bicycles, I don't know, but that's pretty old and I'm sure a vast majority are newer - and therefore likely influenced by - the UCI rainbow.

Plenty of history here to keep one interested for a while!

https://capovelo.com/the-history-of-...ainbow-jersey/

-Gregory

merziac 12-05-20 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 (Post 21820294)
The UCI came around in the year 1900 and the rainbow jersey with the UCI stripes first appeared in 1927. Whether there are older examples of "championship" style stripes on bicycles, I don't know, but that's pretty old and I'm sure a vast majority are newer - and therefore likely influenced by - the UCI rainbow.

Plenty of history here to keep one interested for a while!

https://capovelo.com/the-history-of-...ainbow-jersey/

-Gregory

:thumb: Ok well Tx for that, I guess I stand corrected.

That is some pretty serious lineage, seems odd it took them almost 30 years to find the rainbow.. :foo:

CMAW 12-06-20 03:49 AM

Define stripes...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...58620ada79.png

Andy_K 12-06-20 05:01 AM

Now somebody needs to start a "Show Us Your Bikes with Rainbow Stripes" thread. I've got four with the stripes in the UCI order (Stella, De Rosa, Masi, and LeMond).

tiger1964 12-06-20 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs (Post 21820030)
The general rule, as I understand it, is if a bike brand was ridden to a World Championship, the stripes are allowed. Most of the time I’ve seen them on head tube and seat tube.

It seems that there should be a comprehensive list of brands somewhere.

iab 12-06-20 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21820511)
Now somebody needs to start a "Show Us Your Bikes with Rainbow Stripes" thread. I've got four with the stripes in the UCI order (Stella, De Rosa, Masi, and LeMond).

https://live.staticflickr.com/6167/6...5adfade3_h.jpgCinelli_Model_B 071 by iabisdb, on Flickr


https://live.staticflickr.com/6161/6...cff0c261_h.jpgCinelli_Model_B 067 by iabisdb, on Flickr

droppedandlost 12-06-20 12:01 PM

How about incorporating the brand logo?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ae06f6810a.jpg

alexihnen 12-06-20 01:08 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c3a705ada.jpeg

Drillium Dude 12-06-20 01:28 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...17308ceeff.jpg

DD

Andy_K 12-06-20 02:00 PM

Apparently you can get away with a lot just by changing the order of the colors.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4530c602_b.jpg

oneclick 12-06-20 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21820511)
Now somebody needs to start a "Show Us Your Bikes with Rainbow Stripes" thread. I've got four with the stripes in the UCI order (Stella, De Rosa, Masi, and LeMond).

I knew those guys were famous, but colours named after them?

Cougrrcj 12-06-20 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 (Post 21820226)
As Pompiere pointed out, the order would be switched by bicycle manufacturers to circumvent the rules, not because the official order of the stripes was changing. For example, that Schwinn does not follow the UCI order so is only meant to mimic the idea of the championship stripes. The color arrangement of the Olympic rings is also a popular one to copy. That's blue, yellow, black, green, and red.

-Gregory

Blue-Yellow-Black-Green-Red (top to bottom) is what is on my old '74-built '75 Fuji

(Sorry, pic was taken to show rear rack support piece)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9b0c752fbf.jpg

Cougrrcj 12-06-20 03:10 PM

Kilroy1988 are you digging the old school stuff here -- Pletscher rack, Bike Warehouse rack support, and TireSavers? ;)

Also note the seat-stay-mounted reflectors! Oh, and the crochet-back cycling gloves on the rack?

Yeah, I'm REALLY old school! LOL!!!!

Mr. Spadoni 12-06-20 03:18 PM

OK, say a bike was built for a rider, but was ridden to a championship under another brand. Does the builder get to use the colors?


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