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Old 12-06-20 | 03:49 PM
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Can anyone tell me how to use this tool? I know the principal but can’t figure it out. I finally got the nerve to drill a hole in my frame but now can’t install the rivnut. I bought one of those skewer tools at the same time and can’t find it.
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Old 12-06-20 | 07:20 PM
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It looks like; put riv-nut on the allen screw, place in frame, hold tool with appropriate wrench and tighten the allen screw until the riv-nut expands inside of frame tube. Looks like it could take 3 or 4 hands to do it right.
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Old 12-06-20 | 07:29 PM
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Pic from the tool on Amazon.

Hint: clean the hole of burrs, try to clean the inside of the tube around the hole as well, than add a little epoxy to the outside of the rivnut body before insertion. The hardened epoxy will help prevent the rivnut from spinning later, especially if you don't tighten/crush it enough.

And I guess a warning, just from the reviews of the same/similar tool on amazon, seems like maybe some folks try to overtighten the rivnut and wind up snapping the installation bolt.

I tried to upload the pdf instruction sheet for a similar tool, but I couldn't figure how to upload a .pdf. Maybe I can't? Screenshot it as a .jpg and upload? I found it through google, so you can, too.

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Old 12-06-20 | 08:46 PM
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It looks like; put riv-nut on the allen screw, place in frame, hold tool with appropriate wrench and tighten the allen screw until the riv-nut expands inside of frame tube. Looks like it could take 3 or 4 hands to do it right.
mid I tighten the Allen screw it just keeps screwing into the rivnut. I think I have to hold the Allen and tighten the top but but it seems to just bind to the lower to where it feels like it will break.
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Old 12-06-20 | 08:47 PM
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Pic from the tool on Amazon.

Hint: clean the hole of burrs, try to clean the inside of the tube around the hole as well, than add a little epoxy to the outside of the rivnut body before insertion. The hardened epoxy will help prevent the rivnut from spinning later, especially if you don't tighten/crush it enough.

And I guess a warning, just from the reviews of the same/similar tool on amazon, seems like maybe some folks try to overtighten the rivnut and wind up snapping the installation bolt.

I tried to upload the pdf instruction sheet for a similar tool, but I couldn't figure how to upload a .pdf. Maybe I can't? Screenshot it as a .jpg and upload? I found it through google, so you can, too.

oK cool, I’ll look on amazon. I thought I got it on eBay but couldn’t find it there.
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Old 12-06-20 | 09:25 PM
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Rivnut tutorial

A thread I started way back when in case you don’t have a tool.
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And I guess a warning, just from the reviews of the same/similar tool on amazon, seems like maybe some folks try to overtighten the rivnut and wind up snapping the installation bolt.
There's a change in the resistance-to-effort that you can feel when these things set. What happens is that you stress the metal past yield, and after that point the stress-strain slope changes, it feels easier. Then as the collar squishes up against the flange it goes up again. (After that the resistance falls to zero.)

This is much easier to tell if you have a lever setter.

If the OP did not get a few extra rivnuts with which to practice he might back up and do that.
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If the OP did not get a few extra rivnuts with which to practice he might back up and do that.
Agree 100%. I had a wrecked frame and was able to practice (see my post #6). Although I really had no trouble with the process, it was very reassuring to do a couple trials and see the results inside the tube. You could do the same thing with any piece of thin steel.
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What's ya'lls opinion on doing this on a beefy vintage mountain bike fork? My friend has plans to do this. It's not something I would personally do but he's found examples of folks doing it on the internet and is pretty confident that it's no problem.
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What's ya'lls opinion on doing this on a beefy vintage mountain bike fork? My friend has plans to do this. It's not something I would personally do but he's found examples of folks doing it on the internet and is pretty confident that it's no problem.
Likely depends on how it's to be used. Around town bike, I suspect it's not a big deal. Extended off-road loaded touring, I would say why risk it?
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What's ya'lls opinion on doing this on a beefy vintage mountain bike fork? My friend has plans to do this. It's not something I would personally do but he's found examples of folks doing it on the internet and is pretty confident that it's no problem.
Don't do it. Those bosses on the fork are not rivnuts, they are brazed on so no hole is created, IIRC.
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Don't do it. Those bosses on the fork are not rivnuts, they are brazed on so no hole is created, IIRC.
There are lowrider mounts that are inset into the fork, but, yeah, for retrofitting I would rather have the braze-on on top of the fork and only on a fork that is way overbuilt.
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Old 12-10-20 | 10:42 PM
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So I added grease between the nuts to reduce that friction and it worked a lot better. Held the hex and tightened the top nut. Installed four with no problem. Thanks for the input.
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Lever Setting Tool for Rivnuts

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There's a change in the resistance-to-effort that you can feel when these things set. What happens is that you stress the metal past yield, and after that point the stress-strain slope changes, it feels easier. Then as the collar squishes up against the flange it goes up again. (After that the resistance falls to zero.)

This is much easier to tell if you have a lever setter.

If the OP did not get a few extra rivnuts with which to practice he might back up and do that.
Agreed. I'd rather use the lever tool to better gauge how much "crimp" I'm putting in.
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