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Old 01-11-21, 07:56 AM
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Conti Designer 84 build thread

This Conti Designer 84 frame I have had since it was new in the 80ies. It immediately got black powder coating to be able to endure the wet winters in the southern parts of Sweden – where I went to university at the time. I got the frame at a liquidation auction at a price fitting my student budget. Stripped the paint myself and the powder coater gave me a very good price for the black (edit - and very thin and nice - for being a powder coat) paint job. Did the silver lug lining myself, filled in paint in the Italian flag on the top tube and added a genuine Columbus SL/SP decal.

The original paint scheme was bright red with a white “net” or “ribbing” on the main tubes. Very flamboyant and not at all in line with my, at the time, “less is more/Sartre and black coffee-approach”. Today I would love to have that original paint back…

This frame served me good. I equipped it with Campagnolo Record/Nuovo/Super in different combinations thru the years. I used it until around 1989 when I got my Colnago Master Piu.

Later it was used on a trainer for some years and/but eventually it ended up, stripped of all parts, in the back of a storage room for many years. I have had a bit of a conscience about it.

I also had most of an early Chorus group laying around. And some other bits and pieces. Thought it was time to put it together again.

Started with a good cleaning and some wax. Considering its winter use and later neglect it is in splendid shape. No rust and the toughness of the powder coat have held scratches and small chips to a minimum.

Considering the Chorus group set it might seem strange that I started building it up with a Record headset. I did it because I believe this frame, in a far future, might get a complete Record/Nuovo Record group and I do not want to change headsets too often… And I believe the chrome headset goes nice with the chrome on the frame.





Did a quick mock-up build with dirty parts just to see if it was something I liked.



Then some days ago a lot of cleaning took place.




And an old ad from the time and place (Sweden)



To be continued.

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Old 01-11-21, 08:41 AM
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I had the Conti Designer '84, it was different than yours (wish it was the same size as yours mine was to small for me). The one I had did not have internal cables, it was a midnight blue metal flake solid no fade.
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Gorgeous - I think 1st gen Chorus is the all-time best looking group.

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Really like that "minimalist" black and white powder/paint job and looking forward to seeing the build as you progress: should be a real winner! I also have never seen one with the internal RD cable routing thru the chainstay before, but then we'd see far more CIOCC than Conti in the US and details would vary (even though during these years they both were products of the same builders)
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Really like that "minimalist" black and white powder/paint job and looking forward to seeing the build as you progress: should be a real winner! I also have never seen one with the internal RD cable routing thru the chainstay before, but then we'd see far more CIOCC than Conti in the US and details would vary (even though during these years they both were products of the same builders)
Thanks! (what looks like white is silver though). I am going to keep this one "clean" and stick to the black/chrome/silver all thru the build.

Yes, they built frames with quite some different branding at the time. Ciöcc, Conti and Concorde among others.

Tonight after work I sorted out the abused seatpost. I have always wondered about who get their seatposts to scratch up like this. I know I have never, ever done it. A bit of grease and some feeling for the material... Is that too much to ask for?






Some wet sanding and polishing - taking care not to remove material from the portion below the insertion mark as I do not want the diameter to differ from 27,2.
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almost always caused by a "burr" in the top of the seat tube, often the slot between the seat "ears" but always a reason to make a quick pass with a hone of your choice to shave off the burr or risk repeating this scratch-pattern. I use one of several tools: an adjustable reamer (takes most metal quickest so use with caution), a 2-stone cylinder hone (as for automotive brake cylinders, etc.) or a Flex-hone (with dozens of abrasive balls on the ends of wire brush wires) You could even use a half-round file if that hits just the right spot
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almost always caused by a "burr" in the top of the seat tube, often the slot between the seat "ears" but always a reason to make a quick pass with a hone of your choice to shave off the burr or risk repeating this scratch-pattern. I use one of several tools: an adjustable reamer (takes most metal quickest so use with caution), a 2-stone cylinder hone (as for automotive brake cylinders, etc.) or a Flex-hone (with dozens of abrasive balls on the ends of wire brush wires) You could even use a half-round file if that hits just the right spot
Absolutely - I use an adjustable reamer or a 3-stone hone depending on how much that has to be done. Often a small file is sufficient to de-burr/grade the slot enough. I chase all threads, and mill BB and headset seatings too if needed (often).

I often see questions regarding monoplaner brakes. This picture clearly shows the main difference between an early Chorus and later versions of monoplaner brakes (early on the right):

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I will let todays pictures speak mostly for themselves.

1987 Syncro II (small diameter at the cable "roll up")



Pure poetry




Classic 3TTT stem (not adjusted for hight - will be lower)



More poetry (Bonato, Biffi, Conti or Candido)



Less poetry... Someone thought the Chorus derailleur to be a bit heavy and took a drill to it.



Cleaned the brake handles and gave them NOS rubbers.



Starting to come together...


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coming into focus very nicely! You hardly ever see powder coating with masking and applied that thinly. Whoever did that work is a "keeper" resource!
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coming into focus very nicely! You hardly ever see powder coating with masking and applied that thinly. Whoever did that work is a "keeper" resource!
Thank you! I did the masking myself (chrome and all threads). This paintjob is about 35 years old now. I remember the painter guy being really old. That is - I would guess about my age now (56)... which would make him 90+ today. I remember trying to find a place that did powder coating (this was before the net) and looked it up in the local yellow pages. Talked to him over the phone and as I wrote earlier he gave me a price that was really low. He said I had to strip every small bit of paint off the frame which I did. It had to be really clean and he wanted me to mask it myself. Picking it up after he was finished was very rewarding - as the paint was glossier, thinner and more even than I had expected.

Afterwards he did some frames for couple of friends of mine and they were all really nicely done. Normally he powder coated farm equipment and heavy machinery stuff. We never talked about it but I believe he liked to do these frames and took extra care. I have not seen many examples of powder coated frames that match his results.
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That Powder coat looks like a quality job. Too bad the geaser was old already back then, been looking for somewhere to get a coat done in the Sthlm area ( not really sure why I assume that’s where you’re based).
looking forward to see it all built up!
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