A Warning to Future Generations
#27
Used to be Conspiratemus

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I suppose things like "splash" handlebar tape might be construed as a warning that fashions don't always wear well. A polka-dot bike isn't so bad, since it is modeled on the TdF jersey.
My favorite example of how fashions don't age well is a page out of a mid-70's Raleigh catalog. The bikes are fine, but the clothing.... well, you'll see....

Steve in Peoria
My favorite example of how fashions don't age well is a page out of a mid-70's Raleigh catalog. The bikes are fine, but the clothing.... well, you'll see....

Steve in Peoria
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while I was going through one of my old magazines, I was reminded of the hazards of making moral/ethical compromises, and how that can put one onto the slippery slope to infamy....

if that's not a warning to future generations of cyclists, I'm not sure what is.
Steve in Peoria

if that's not a warning to future generations of cyclists, I'm not sure what is.
Steve in Peoria
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while I was going through one of my old magazines, I was reminded of the hazards of making moral/ethical compromises, and how that can put one onto the slippery slope to infamy....
[[i]Lance Armstrong image]
if that's not a warning to future generations of cyclists, I'm not sure what is.
[[i]Lance Armstrong image]
if that's not a warning to future generations of cyclists, I'm not sure what is.
14 of the 25 most recent winners (56%) have either failed tests or have confessed to have used doping. Together with those who failed tests but never sanctioned, 68% of the winners evidently used doping as detailed in the table below.
And from this site:
In addition, of the 81 different riders who finished in the top-10 of the Tour de France during this period, 65% have been caught doping, admitted to blood doping, or have strong associations to doping and are suspected cheaters.
More importantly for Lance Armstrong, during the 7-year window when he won every Tour de France (1999-2005), 87% of the top-10 finishers (61 of 70) were confirmed dopers or suspected of doping.
More importantly for Lance Armstrong, during the 7-year window when he won every Tour de France (1999-2005), 87% of the top-10 finishers (61 of 70) were confirmed dopers or suspected of doping.
Alternatively:
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As for fades... some of those mid-90's fades aren't exactly my favourite colour combinations. But they pale compared to some eyesore frame designs around that time:
#35
no question, the history of bike racing is full of folks seeking to improve their performance in whatever way they can.
It could be argued that Lance just didn't know when to tone it down a bit and avoid some of the scrutiny. You don't want to be the guy that the authorities decide to make an example of.
It could also be argued that he might not have been penalized so much if he had been a nicer guy.
To counter the "don't get caught' argument.. I think LeMond serves as an example of the right way to succeed. Like Lance, he had physical problems to overcome, but LeMond seems to have won the Tour without doping, or at least without getting caught doping?
but yeah,.. there are a variety of lessons to be learned from Mr. Armstrong.
Steve in Peoria
It could be argued that Lance just didn't know when to tone it down a bit and avoid some of the scrutiny. You don't want to be the guy that the authorities decide to make an example of.
It could also be argued that he might not have been penalized so much if he had been a nicer guy.
To counter the "don't get caught' argument.. I think LeMond serves as an example of the right way to succeed. Like Lance, he had physical problems to overcome, but LeMond seems to have won the Tour without doping, or at least without getting caught doping?
but yeah,.. there are a variety of lessons to be learned from Mr. Armstrong.
Steve in Peoria
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I found myself following this guy at a BobF ride, I think you & Mark attended.

Ahhh there it is - Not a climbing route so, Polka Dot bike saved for later.

Ahhh there it is - Not a climbing route so, Polka Dot bike saved for later.
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Bikes are okay, I guess.



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#40
Seeing that pic in a magazine in the 80's of Eric Heiden on his 7-11 team bike with the first wonky looking upturned necked stem was a good warning for me on how race bikes are just going to continually get uglier and uglier in the future.
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84 Gitane Tour de France.
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Doing it with panaché will always be in style:

(edit: ^^^^ Not my bike, i couldn't pull it off, dressed out by a much classier Forum member)
Or alternatively

(edit: ^^^^ Not my bike, i couldn't pull it off, dressed out by a much classier Forum member)
Or alternatively
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This'll never go on a bike, it's worth 10x in the box. And 9x of that is the box.
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polka dotted frame=awesomeness
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Rossin and Faggin win the awards for “hmm...what eyesore paint will actually look really cool...in 30 years”
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#47
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Crackle, splatter, and fades are the greatest 3 paint styles ever created. Ever.
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In the same vein: Every single article of clothing worn by every single model in every single photo on every single page of every single Schwinn catalog from every single year from about 1965 to about 1977. I thought the models (except for the guys on the Paramount track bikes) looked stupid when I saw the catalogs as a kid in real time. I poured over every detail of at least some of the bikes. But I, even at 8 years old, thought the humans in the pics looked like total dorks. And that was before the word "dork" was invented.
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Not so much a warning as an object lesson that even top-drawer outfits can lose their way.
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Low-end Campagnolo stuff was always crummy. And they certainly have had some duds since then.
One sad thing for me is that Colnago paint jobs got stuck in the '80s for a very long time. They have mostly recovered, but their color choices are unremarkable.
One sad thing for me is that Colnago paint jobs got stuck in the '80s for a very long time. They have mostly recovered, but their color choices are unremarkable.










