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Originally Posted by coolkat
(Post 21916958)
Well I'm gen Z so i can confirm that only thing offensive about that Serotta is the triple. Most of the stuff in this thread is awesome:love:
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the "measles" Serotta must have been for a King of the mountain tribute bike.
Actually I would write to Ben Serotta, oddball enough that the backstory is probably interesting. Those Colnago airbrush dot extravaganzas just don't do much for me, but some are willing to pay the big bucks. |
Originally Posted by bOsscO
(Post 21916982)
I bow to your expertise, well done.
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My '87 Paramount painted by Richard Schwinn. The wheel decals were a bit too much and were quickly removed.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...601b345afc.jpg |
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e94f4215f4.jpg
The current generation does not yet know what happened. Here is the very first bike in the world with a new transmission "NEWFIX". It has already become a rarity and a priceless thing a priori. Descendants will see new designs based on this transmission, which will take their rightful place in the cycling world. For example, here is such a design, while in the draft version: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6cf6dcb41c.jpg As you can see, the ergonomic calculation of the landing on the Rudge Rotary Newfix has already been carried out. Gear ratio calculation. The first overclocking gear is 1. 5x54=81". The developed speed is 46.5 km / h. The second high-speed transmission is 1. 5x2. 5=3.75. In inches, this is 3.75 x 54=202.5". The developed speed is 116 km / h. For a high, the pleasure is enough. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 21916991)
the "measles" Serotta must have been for a King of the mountain tribute bike.
Actually I would write to Ben Serotta, oddball enough that the backstory is probably interesting. https://live.staticflickr.com/4854/3...5f4105fe_c.jpg It seems a bit odd that they left off the 's' -- maybe a trademark issue? When I ride this bike, I like to imagine myself as a rouleur for one of the minor teams in the Tour who got the points over a couple of Cat 4 climbs in a breakaway on stage one. Taylor Phinney got the KoM jersey like this in 2017 on stage 2 before finishing 146th on the day. I was inspired. There is at least one other one like this, The owner of the other one had it repainted and kept the polka dots but changed it to "Jester of the Mountain" -- https://thepaceline.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117821 The biggest thing keeping me from having it repainted is that I would feel silly having the polka dots recreated if I did, but I feel like the polka dots ought to stay as a piece of this bike's history.
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 21916991)
Those Colnago airbrush dot extravaganzas just don't do much for me, but some are willing to pay the big bucks.
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Andy K - is that a CSi or Atlanta frame? Wish I had been smart enough to keep my '97 CSi.
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Originally Posted by ParamountScapin
(Post 21917220)
Andy K - is that a CSi or Atlanta frame? Wish I had been smart enough to keep my '97 CSi.
https://live.staticflickr.com/4836/4...f75342bd_c.jpg (Just a larger 'S' on the other side) So, what does that make it? Colorado (without additional qualifiers)? |
Afraid I cannot answer with any authority. Especially as most any fork could be ordered with any frame.
Serotta made (makes?) nice bikes. I understand that Ben Serotta has the name back and is making Ti, only, bikes. At the prices I see for bespoke bikes these days it is probably something he could not resist. |
Originally Posted by Duragrouch View Post "Custom" (extra cost) paint graphics on Cannondales (early '90s?) that looked like paint dabbed on with a sponge in about five seconds. Can't find a pic yet.
Originally Posted by Trakhak
(Post 21916918)
Those graphics were originally used at Cannondale when they were having trouble with their heat-treating process; frame tubes ended up slightly but visibly warped. The alignment of those frames was perfect, the sales rep assured us; the warping was only a cosmetic problem. The splotches of paint were meant to distract from the warping. Dubbing the paint "custom graphics": classic "it's a feature, not a bug" end run.
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111 posts and no one has mentioned Pegoretti? Yeah, yeah.... he was one of the best ever, and beauty in the eye of the beholder and all... But these look like the frames he used in order to wipe his paintbrushes on...
https://www.sefiles.net/merchant/240...nsorium21s.jpg https://www.thebiketailor.com/conten...g-Leg-Emma.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/7f...c1d59f2873.jpg |
Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
(Post 21918287)
111 posts and no one has mentioned Pegoretti? Yeah, yeah.... he was one of the best ever, and beauty in the eye of the beholder and all... But these look like the frames he used in order to wipe his paintbrushes on...
Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
(Post 21918287)
One was at the 2009 NAHBS, as part of the Brooks booth (it had a fuzzy Brooks saddle on it, IIRC) https://live.staticflickr.com/3413/3...cb13a2_c_d.jpg the other Pegoretti I've seen belongs to a local fellow. It's much more subdued... almost stealthy, really. Maybe the outrageous Pegoretti paint schemes are just show bikes? https://live.staticflickr.com/1817/4...1dacc2_c_d.jpg Steve in Peoria |
Originally Posted by Duragrouch
(Post 21917715)
So, the graphics covered the defects ***AND*** they charged more for the privilege!
As I recall, Cannondale didn't charge extra for the custom graphics at first, when the objective was to distract from the warped tubes. |
Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
(Post 21918287)
111 posts and no one has mentioned Pegoretti? Yeah, yeah.... he was one of the best ever, and beauty in the eye of the beholder and all... But these look like the frames he used in order to wipe his paintbrushes on...
https://www.sefiles.net/merchant/240...nsorium21s.jpg https://www.thebiketailor.com/conten...g-Leg-Emma.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/7f...c1d59f2873.jpg Post #96 Dave Kirk frame with Pegorreti paint :beer: |
Sorry if this is too much BMX stuff but here's a odd 80's FAD that was cool and completely dorky at the same time. BMX Grand Prix / F1.
There was another BMX fad at the time called GPV or Gravity Racing. Where kids were going to the top of a mountain and riding down it as fast as they could on a BMX using gravity. Well to go faster you obviously had to make your bike more aerodynamic!!! Here is some armature GPV racing in action. But what if you don't want to risk your life going down a mountain on a 20" bike at break neck speeds? Even worse is what if you don't even live by a Mountain??? Well with the bike companies BMX sales slowing down they got together and created a new sport. BMX Grand Prix!! with the bikes ironically called F1. They took the aerodynamics of downhill BMX bikes and created one of the most boring bicycle sports in history. Here's the Ultimate F1 the Hutch HPV. believe it or not but the fairings actually do make it go faster. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...23fb6ec7c6.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9ef43c9443.png There was other non-fairing designs. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b08d1aa2b9.png https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ab82a3168e.jpg Pic borrowed from Google https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1df3e7e6e1.jpg Pic borrowed from Google The bikes looked fast and futuristic but the racing was kinda dorky. It was basically a 10 min heat/sprint around a road course often set up in a parking lot. Didn't have the jumps and excitement of BMX/MTB and didn't have the speed and distance of road racing. |
Originally Posted by cbrstar
(Post 21920065)
Sorry if this is too much BMX stuff but here's a odd 80's FAD that was cool and completely dorky at the same time. BMX Grand Prix / F1.
There was another BMX fad at the time called GPV or Gravity Racing. Where kids were going to the top of a mountain and riding down it as fast as they could on a BMX using gravity. Well to go faster you obviously had to make your bike more aerodynamic!!! Here is some armature GPV racing in action. GPV BMX 1988 Rotorua nz - YouTube But what if you don't want to risk your life going down a mountain on a 20" bike at break neck speeds? Even worse is what if you don't even live by a Mountain??? Well with the bike companies BMX sales slowing down they got together and created a new sport. BMX Grand Prix!! with the bikes ironically called F1. They took the aerodynamics of downhill BMX bikes and created one of the most boring bicycle sports in history. Here's the Ultimate F1 the Hutch HPV. believe it or not but the fairings actually do make it go faster. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...23fb6ec7c6.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9ef43c9443.png There was other non-fairing designs. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b08d1aa2b9.png https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ab82a3168e.jpg Pic borrowed from Google https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1df3e7e6e1.jpg Pic borrowed from Google The bikes looked fast and futuristic but the racing was kinda dorky. It was basically a 10 min heat/sprint around a road course often set up in a parking lot. Didn't have the jumps and excitement of BMX/MTB and didn't have the speed and distance of road racing. |
I fear the '89 Raleigh Appalachian frame I'm in the process of building up falls into this category...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b589d23c3.jpg |
For posterity, color perversions are not remembered. Something technical is remembered. Like the torsion of the frame masked by apples. My newfix is remembered purely technically: isn't it?!
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