It's all a fallacy
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It's all a fallacy

Bought for $20. All I did was spray WD40 on the chain and gear set. Yesterday I had to leave my custom street shredder at a friend's, to drunk to XUK ,so to get to work on time today I decided to break in my FREE SPIRIT BRITTANY. She was a little heavy to lift over the obstacles, put that down to the fenders,rack, plush saddle and old school but solid mechanicals.. This was a comfortable ride!! shifting was smooth, saddle was arm chair, brakes did the job, traffic didn't get in the way and
people just loved the way it looked!!


Is there a comparison?
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Is there a comparison to a heavy entry level mixte? Yes, I do believe a comparison exists.
I dont know what the fallacy is?...
I dont know what the fallacy is?...
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This is how it should look, courtesy of 3alarmer: Suntour Blueline groupset.
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Suntour Blue whoops
Guess I am still one over the eight. Meant to post a picture of the Falcon that came with the Spirit. The Suntour I just set up on the

new to me Lotus, not happy with it.But I just can't be happy today no matter how trick my weapon of choice. I guess that's the reason for my Brittany epiphany as Freud would say sometimes a bike is just a cat in a box or is that someone else's dream

new to me Lotus, not happy with it.But I just can't be happy today no matter how trick my weapon of choice. I guess that's the reason for my Brittany epiphany as Freud would say sometimes a bike is just a cat in a box or is that someone else's dream
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Count yourself lucky that you live in SF and have room for a good-sized stable of bikes. But do yourself a favor and lower the stem on that Lotus before something tragic happens. "One over the eight." Ha, that's a new one. Don't take this the wrong way: You've got some things to learn about bike maintenance, but you're on the right path. I raise my glass to you.
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Cheers!!
Count yourself lucky that you live in SF and have room for a good-sized stable of bikes. But do yourself a favor and lower the stem on that Lotus before something tragic happens. "One over the eight." Ha, that's a new one. Don't take this the wrong way: You've got some things to learn about bike maintenance, but you're on the right path. I raise my glass to you.

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Cheers!!
Count yourself lucky that you live in SF and have room for a good-sized stable of bikes. But do yourself a favor and lower the stem on that Lotus before something tragic happens. "One over the eight." Ha, that's a new one. Don't take this the wrong way: You've got some things to learn about bike maintenance, but you're on the right path. I raise my glass to you.

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your life you like it well
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I spent a couple of weeks in London every year from 2007-15 for work. Had my share of pints, too.
your life you like it well
but surely your time will come
as in heaven, as in hell
I spent a couple of weeks in London every year from 2007-15 for work. Had my share of pints, too.
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Advice on swap?

Decided to see if the Campagnolo would treat me better
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The singlespeed and three-speed Free Spirit Brittany models may be the best non-Ted Williams products ever to wear that brand name. I realize this is the derailer-equipped model - which I'm less favorable to only as I'm partial to IGHs on city bikes - but as a 3-speed, they're extremely capable.
They're easily on par with any Raleigh Sports - in both the good and the bad - and can be upgraded as such. About the only downsides are the cheap chainguard and the Shimano 333 hubs spec'ed on them, but who hasn't wanted to upgrade those on a Sports either?
I also had this absolute beater of a Brittany at one time. Best will-never-get-stolen-ever bike I've ever had. It's also the bike that taught me that the bastardization of a coasterbrake on drop bars is actually a really ridiculously fun combination, if you don't mind wearing out tires. Little 500 FTW!

-Kurt
They're easily on par with any Raleigh Sports - in both the good and the bad - and can be upgraded as such. About the only downsides are the cheap chainguard and the Shimano 333 hubs spec'ed on them, but who hasn't wanted to upgrade those on a Sports either?
I also had this absolute beater of a Brittany at one time. Best will-never-get-stolen-ever bike I've ever had. It's also the bike that taught me that the bastardization of a coasterbrake on drop bars is actually a really ridiculously fun combination, if you don't mind wearing out tires. Little 500 FTW!

-Kurt
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I am not sure that I understand the It's all a fallacy comment. But the Free Spirit reminded me of a sunny day at our Bicycles for Humanity vintage bicycle yard sale that we hold at Lakehead University once or twice a year. The young lady, being held hostage by the young man, took one look at a Simpson Sears Free Spirit bike and announced, "that's me" and she bought the bike. One of the B4H mechanics was doing the fit and final check for her, before road away...
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Advice on swap?
...given my own experience with that Suntour Blue Line derailleur, if it is undamaged and unbent, I would rank it far better in performance than the Campagnolo unit in your photo.
There are a couple of things in your photo that are confusing. I presume you know the cable needs to be connected, but you also have a kink in the cable housing right next to the derailleur that needs to be corrected. That housing is pretty old, and a new section with a plastic liner would probably improve your outcome.
That Blue Line thing is roughly equivalent to Suntour's top end Cyclone of the earlier era. There are no contemporaneous rear derailleurs I'm aware of that do a better job, unless maybe you want to go with something newer.
There are a couple of things in your photo that are confusing. I presume you know the cable needs to be connected, but you also have a kink in the cable housing right next to the derailleur that needs to be corrected. That housing is pretty old, and a new section with a plastic liner would probably improve your outcome.
That Blue Line thing is roughly equivalent to Suntour's top end Cyclone of the earlier era. There are no contemporaneous rear derailleurs I'm aware of that do a better job, unless maybe you want to go with something newer.
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^ I agree with this. SunTour BL is a very nicely functioning derailleur. The split cage is useful for wheel changes, but I can't tell from the OP's photo if the cage is a bit bent. It's not difficult to remove and straighten, though.









