Which one would you keep?
08-09-21 | 06:04 PM
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From: NW Ohio
Bikes: 1983 Univega Super Strada, 1986 Panasonic DX5000, 1984 Fuji Team 85 Univega Gran Turismo, 1984 Lotus Unique, 1987 Centurion Expert, 1987 Centurion Ironman Master,
Which one would you keep?
I'm trying to thin my collection a bit and I'm torn between which of these 2 bikes to keep. I have
a 1987 Ironman Master and a 1986 Panasonic DX 5000. They are both the same size and equipped
with Shimano 600 components. The frames are very close to the same and both are in excellent+
condition. I do like the purple better lol
a 1987 Ironman Master and a 1986 Panasonic DX 5000. They are both the same size and equipped
with Shimano 600 components. The frames are very close to the same and both are in excellent+
condition. I do like the purple better lol
08-09-21 | 06:48 PM
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Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, 86 De Rosa Pro, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
which one do smile on more when riding? keep that one....if a tie go purple
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08-09-21 | 07:16 PM
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I say go with the Ironman, though I am partial. I had the same bike (same color too) but it had been outfitted with Dura Ace by previous owner. So my vote is sell the Panasonic so you can get a Dura Ace group for the Ironman!
08-09-21 | 07:20 PM
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Or sell the Ironman and get DA for the Panasonic. 
08-09-21 | 09:07 PM
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Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1980s DeRosa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA SBDU Team Pro
Ironman!
From an aesthetic point of view the lugwork, the fork ends, rear dropouts etc on the Panasonic are a little nicer but...
From a practical point of view, the Ironman is going to have a higher resale value and is more desirable because they are recognized classics.
What price glory?
Panasonics? Feh! They made their reputation selling TVs, boom boxes, and appliances!
Earth Wind & Fire vs. Miami Vice and the Ironman Races!
Just one more thing:
One more suggestion: which bike do you enjoy ridding the most? If neither, get rid of them both!
verktyg
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08-09-21 | 09:45 PM
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From: NW Ohio
Bikes: 1983 Univega Super Strada, 1986 Panasonic DX5000, 1984 Fuji Team 85 Univega Gran Turismo, 1984 Lotus Unique, 1987 Centurion Expert, 1987 Centurion Ironman Master,
From an aesthetic point of view the lugwork, the fork ends, rear dropouts etc on the Panasonic are a little nicer but...
From a practical point of view, the Ironman is going to have a higher resale value and is more desirable because they are recognized classics.
What price glory?
Panasonics? Feh! They made their reputation selling TVs, boom boxes, and appliances!
Earth Wind & Fire vs. Miami Vice and the Ironman Races!
Just one more thing:
One more suggestion: which bike do you enjoy ridding the most? If neither, get rid of them both!
verktyg
08-09-21 | 09:46 PM
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From: NW Ohio
Bikes: 1983 Univega Super Strada, 1986 Panasonic DX5000, 1984 Fuji Team 85 Univega Gran Turismo, 1984 Lotus Unique, 1987 Centurion Expert, 1987 Centurion Ironman Master,
08-09-21 | 10:46 PM
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From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1980s DeRosa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA SBDU Team Pro
08-09-21 | 10:58 PM
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From: Menomonee Falls, WI
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I’d keep the green one, better looking.
Tim
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08-09-21 | 11:17 PM
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From: Des Moines, IA
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Panasonic.
Purple.
Chrome ds stay.
Nicer finished dropouts.
Purple.
Chrome ds stay.
Nicer finished dropouts.
08-10-21 | 06:13 AM
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Bikes: More than the people who ride them...oy.
Get more storage...
...but the Panasonic is awesome...
...but the Panasonic is awesome...
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1987 Crest C'dale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin EL, 1990 Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Isoard, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 C'dale M500, 1984 Mercian Pro, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi ?, 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh Internat'l, 1998 Corratec U+D, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone, 1987 Bianchi Volpe, 1995 Trek 750
08-10-21 | 07:52 AM
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Put them both on CL at reasonable prices + $100. One might sell. The Panasonic will be a better looker when you send it to JB for custom paint but I really really enjoyed my '86 IMs which I believe is the same frame as the '87 Master which had good clearance for 28s if that is important to you.
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