Bike lock technology
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Bike lock technology
Was sad to read of some others having their bikes stolen. Stumbled on this very interesting site and article on this very subject covering latest bike locks and some interesting upcoming technology from a British bike lock company.
https://thebestbikelock.com/security...oof-bike-lock/
https://thebestbikelock.com/security...oof-bike-lock/
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Not sure why this is in C&V, but anyway.
Interesting article, but thieves are just going to find the path of least resistance, which, in the case of the subject D-locks, will probably be the object you're locking to.
Interesting article, but thieves are just going to find the path of least resistance, which, in the case of the subject D-locks, will probably be the object you're locking to.
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And it could be more relevant for C+V with a better lock that gives enough peace of mind and actual security to get us out there for more rides on said C+V bikes.
Yes they are heavy, yes they may be able to cut whatever it is locked to and yes they may get mad and trash the bike or cut it to make a point.
But with the same alertness and diligence one would use with the cut in a minute lock, this new lock affords a lot more usability IMO
Yes they are heavy, yes they may be able to cut whatever it is locked to and yes they may get mad and trash the bike or cut it to make a point.
But with the same alertness and diligence one would use with the cut in a minute lock, this new lock affords a lot more usability IMO
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The one that best caught my interest recently was the one that fouls angle grinders. The core was still hardened steel.
Hiplok D1000
Hiplok D1000 eats angle grinder blades
Hiplok D1000
Hiplok D1000 eats angle grinder blades
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[MENTION=153422]Trueblood[/MENTION] thanks for the video. Fascinating watching the lock being picked. [MENTION=201555]P!N20[/MENTION] many people including me would like to be able to take their vintage bikes on errands but don’t feel comfortable due to theft.
Looks like the hillock1000 is going to cost about $350 ; with the cost so high I wonder how big a market there is for this product. Think I may just rather ride a clunker on errands .
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...nder-bike-lock
Looks like the hillock1000 is going to cost about $350 ; with the cost so high I wonder how big a market there is for this product. Think I may just rather ride a clunker on errands .
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...nder-bike-lock
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[MENTION=153422]Trueblood[/MENTION] thanks for the video. Fascinating watching the lock being picked. [MENTION=201555]P!N20[/MENTION] many people including me would like to be able to take their vintage bikes on errands but don’t feel comfortable due to theft.
Looks like the hillock1000 is going to cost about $350 ; with the cost so high I wonder how big a market there is for this product. Think I may just rather ride a clunker on errands .
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...nder-bike-lock
Looks like the hillock1000 is going to cost about $350 ; with the cost so high I wonder how big a market there is for this product. Think I may just rather ride a clunker on errands .
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...nder-bike-lock
I got in while they still had 2 packs for around $400 so still not cheap but a little less and still a better deal than the $245 ABUS Granite something that I think I paid $125 for that is impressive but can still be toast in under 2 minutes with the grinder.
I never did trust it for any real lockups but the hiplock will add some peace of mind to more rides that require it.

And if we're being honest, we spend far more than that on far less practical things for this "hobby", often without batting an eye.
I told my wife I spent that on locks and her only question was "one's for me, right?", absolutely I said.
Any other $400 bike expenditure would have been discussed at far greater length with far less favorable results as we know all too well.
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I think tactics are more important than choice of weapon. If you’re putting your bike in a situation where the odds are high of a steal attempt then ride a bike that isn’t that nice or at least not as nice as the other bikes around it. A minute is a long time to sit in a public place producing sparks with an angle grinder. If you use 2 $75 dollar u locks, 2 minutes is twice as long. If you live in a place where a guy is willing to wield his angle grinder as a weapon, well that’s another conversation and maybe you ought to get that Brompton to bring inside with you.
Im sure I’ve told this story before but years ago, in the Navy, I took my bike with me on the ship down to San Diego on a short cruise from San Francisco. I locked it to a rack on the pier next to the ship. I had a weekend off and flew back up to see my sweetie (young love, plane flights were cheaper than dates back then and she’s now my wife) who dropped me back off at the airport in my car. Small lapse, though, my bike lock key was with my car keys. No way I’m leaving my bike in SD, so I get some guys to do some “training” on the pier and we use a backpack torch designed for emergency cutting through steel bulkheads to slice through the bike rack (took about 10 seconds) and bring bike and lock back onto the ship.
Im sure I’ve told this story before but years ago, in the Navy, I took my bike with me on the ship down to San Diego on a short cruise from San Francisco. I locked it to a rack on the pier next to the ship. I had a weekend off and flew back up to see my sweetie (young love, plane flights were cheaper than dates back then and she’s now my wife) who dropped me back off at the airport in my car. Small lapse, though, my bike lock key was with my car keys. No way I’m leaving my bike in SD, so I get some guys to do some “training” on the pier and we use a backpack torch designed for emergency cutting through steel bulkheads to slice through the bike rack (took about 10 seconds) and bring bike and lock back onto the ship.
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Or lock it with a gas line!
https://www.skunklock.com
C&V lock? My 1977 Citadel:

Front line service for 38 years; never breached. Now just locks a bike in the shed.
https://www.skunklock.com
C&V lock? My 1977 Citadel:

Front line service for 38 years; never breached. Now just locks a bike in the shed.
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I think tactics are more important than choice of weapon. If you’re putting your bike in a situation where the odds are high of a steal attempt then ride a bike that isn’t that nice or at least not as nice as the other bikes around it. A minute is a long time to sit in a public place producing sparks with an angle grinder. If you use 2 $75 dollar u locks, 2 minutes is twice as long. If you live in a place where a guy is willing to wield his angle grinder as a weapon, well that’s another conversation and maybe you ought to get that Brompton to bring inside with you.
Im sure I’ve told this story before but years ago, in the Navy, I took my bike with me on the ship down to San Diego on a short cruise from San Francisco. I locked it to a rack on the pier next to the ship. I had a weekend off and flew back up to see my sweetie (young love, plane flights were cheaper than dates back then and she’s now my wife) who dropped me back off at the airport in my car. Small lapse, though, my bike lock key was with my car keys. No way I’m leaving my bike in SD, so I get some guys to do some “training” on the pier and we use a backpack torch designed for emergency cutting through steel bulkheads to slice through the bike rack (took about 10 seconds) and bring bike and lock back onto the ship.
Im sure I’ve told this story before but years ago, in the Navy, I took my bike with me on the ship down to San Diego on a short cruise from San Francisco. I locked it to a rack on the pier next to the ship. I had a weekend off and flew back up to see my sweetie (young love, plane flights were cheaper than dates back then and she’s now my wife) who dropped me back off at the airport in my car. Small lapse, though, my bike lock key was with my car keys. No way I’m leaving my bike in SD, so I get some guys to do some “training” on the pier and we use a backpack torch designed for emergency cutting through steel bulkheads to slice through the bike rack (took about 10 seconds) and bring bike and lock back onto the ship.

That is my point that these new locks offer a fair bit more peace of mind with the strength to back it up.
Still not going to use them for any high risk situations but they will afford a little more adventure and latitude IMO.

And like I said, lock it to a gas pipe and you're golden.
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I finally came back to watch that lockpicking lawyer video and it's kind of funny. "My first line of defense is to use a bike that's not very valuable or attract attention, and next I'm going to choose this HUGE lock with a SAFETY ORANGE shackle and TWO INCH WHITE LETTERS that I will now EASILY defeat"
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Along with the early Kryptonite, the Citadel was the first of the U-locks. I bought it right after...I had a bike stolen in the summer of 1977, you know, duh. By modern standards the old first model Citadel is not a great U-lock, but I used it for decades in places where other bikes were stolen and it did the job. Sure, it theoretically could be jacked, picked or cut - yet, along with good locking technique, it always made my bikes 'too much trouble' to steal.





