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swampyankee2 03-22-22 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. 66 (Post 22447031)
Swampy, double check your rear wheel. It does not look properly seated in the claw and dropouts in the picture posted.

HA! I found that out the hard way! Big noob mistake and oversight while replacing tyres and RD. It came unseated on an uphill slog described in a couple other posts. Might've contributed to the difficulty I was having, who knows! So to be right, the axle should set all the way back in the drop, correct?

swampyankee2 03-22-22 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 22446457)
Top tube length and handlebar position also play a roll.
when I was young and 5'-7"
I bought a 59 ctt framed bike, everyone thought I would grow... I did but not eneough.
I sold it off for. 56 cm ctt frame when I was 5'-9". I gained some height but gravity struck back. I still have that 56cm bike but truthfully it is now a tad long.

if I wanted my bars level with the saddle a 58-59 cm would work.

but most often those bikes have a top tube too long.

I am not discussing seat tube angle or as some note "setback".

I think the Dawes is on the middle- longer side.
a 22.5" top tube might be what it has, if so, can be made to work with a shorter stem.

consider what you need and go from there.
Dawes I think went 19, 21, 23... maybe even add a 1/2" to each size.
Sometimes even the 21" frames had long top tubes... easier to avoid toe clip overlap.

I've kind of settled on my Dawes being ok as far as size wise, I've tweaked the seat for and aft location and angled it forward slightly, however, a shorter reach stem is a consideration.

Mr. 66 03-22-22 10:12 AM

Yes fully seated in the claw, the non drive is not at a fixed point, unless you have a dropout stop on there. I may have one that I can picture. They work good for bikes with the claw for wheel install.

swampyankee2 03-23-22 07:01 PM

I've been looking at slightly more modern road bikes that i can more easily change gearing on. Found a nice 90s Raleigh Super Course for $100.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...edbe3156d.jpeg
The seller didn't know what frame size it is so he sent me pics showing measurement 33" from ground to top bar, same as my Dawes.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fc4adc5d6.jpeg
Although I'm keeping the Dawes, I'll probably hold out for a smaller frame for my next bike.


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