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Cinelli SC Monza
I am still a little in shock that this came up locally and in my size! Still has the Cinelli bar tape and plugs! The crank looks like it could be a replacement but everything else looks original. Supposedly there were only made in 61 but any info is appreciated.
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Originally Posted by merziac
(Post 22530877)
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Originally Posted by purebikes
(Post 22530881)
Yes, one there and one on underside of bb.
They can sometimes give a good ballpark depending on others that are documented around it. The Monza nails it down pretty good anyway but.. I have an SC that is from the same time with ports that was determined to be 60-61 so just curious. |
Originally Posted by merziac
(Post 22530899)
s/n even though we now they don't tell us much?
They can sometimes give a good ballpark depending on others that are documented around it. The monza nails it down pretty good anyway but.. I have an sc that is from the same time with ports that was determined to be 60-61 so just curious. |
Originally Posted by purebikes
(Post 22530902)
#7097
Mines 7030 and was explained to me that "sometimes" numbers close together "might" be actually close together. Looks like that "might" be the case here, maybe, or not. ;) |
Originally Posted by merziac
(Post 22530912)
Tx man, killer find, you should go buy a lottery ticket too.
Mines 7030 and was explained to me that "sometimes" numbers close together "might" be actually close together. Looks like that "might" be the case here, maybe, or not. ;) |
Originally Posted by purebikes
(Post 22530917)
There is a very similar Monza badged bike with serial # 7095 on the web. It has a different crank and the colors are different, but otherwise the same. It is interesting that the Monza model doesn’t have that much info on it, but either way I am glad to own it.
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Oh, my. I think I need a cigarette . . . .
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
(Post 22530970)
Oh, my. I think I need a cigarette . . . .
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Stylin'
some guys get all the luck the rear hub may not match the front... check the clamping surface of the lock nuts rear QR is open C.... I think older than the bike. was able to enlarge the images with the hubs- surprised both QRs have open C... and are probably "pre Record hubs" no record stamping under Campagnolo. quite a bike. get replacement pads so you can stop in a reasonable distance with reasonable force. |
Beautiful bike, and pretty rare from what I understand.
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Doing a little digging on these Monza’s this morning. Are all of the examples of these in the states? Just curious if the Monza was an early marketing addition for Cinelli’s to try out in the states? Just speculating and thinking like an Italian bike manufacturer trying to sell bikes in a different market. Maybe these were trying to capitalize on the foreign teams being at the Olympics in Rome in 1960 and to sell bikes in untapped markets. Is this “made in italy” decal
on other Cinelli bikes sold in other markets? Again, just speculating…I will put away my detective hat for a little bit https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fadf42732.jpeg |
A couple more things about these Monzas I noticed. Now I have seen 4. None have the same paint. Also, none have the Cinelli headset. Without the same paint, it makes me think this is much more random. Bruggelmann SCs were pretty much always yellow. But a sample of 4 is tiny, so I still haven't a clue what the deal is with these bikes.
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Kind of curious about the "Monza" designation because I made a point of visiting the (then) Cinelli HQ when was in Milan in 1990.
IIRC (and maybe not since this was 32 years ago) I found the address in a phonebook (!) and got the concierge at our central-city Milano hotel to give advice on best ways to get there. She decide a taxi would cost a fortune so gave us the complicated and time-consuming details to get out to the place I recall as being a long slow trip out to near Monza on city and inter-city buses. But maybe not. I recall by the time we got there the factory was near closing so didn't get to see much, but "enjoyed" the same long slow bus ride in reverse. By what is recorded in Velo Retro's Cinelli timeline, it was the Sales Office (not the fabrication facility) which was located in No. 10 Viale Monza in Milalno and back in 1951 the Fabrication Site moved from Via Bartolomeo Eustachi, 30 to Via Egido Folli, 45 which is still within the city limits of Milano. However there is nothing in that timeline about how long "Cinelli & C" stayed at this location or if /when they were actually located out in Monza (say in 1961, let alone in 1990). But as we all know the metal headbadges as well as frame decals with the shield shaped coat of arms or "crest" have "MILANO" at the bottom from 1947 on. The current location is recorded as Via G. Di Vittorio, 21 20049 Caleppio di Settala (MI) which to my reading is a suburb (Caleppio) some distance to the East of Milano City Limits, as well as an even greater distance SouthEast from Monza city limits. |
Originally Posted by iab
(Post 22531519)
Bruggelmann SCs were pretty much always yellow.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5766e78568.jpg |
did you buy it yet
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Must be why Chevrolet later designated a model of the Corvair, Monza.
My first car. The American Porsche. |
Originally Posted by purebikes
(Post 22530772)
I am still a little in shock that this came up locally and in my size! Still has the Cinelli bar tape and plugs! The crank looks like it could be a replacement but everything else looks original. Supposedly there were only made in 61 but any info is appreciated.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7ae2f5c2a.jpeg |
^ holy way to cash in, Batman!
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 22534931)
^ holy way to cash in, Batman!
;) |
Mercenary
"any info appreciated". Yep, a pat on the back sort of. so it goes |
Oh baby oh baby oh baby.. Put some big tires on me and lets get dirty
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