Milesp99

HI,

I recently purchased a peugeot which I am struggling to identify exactly what it is (probs being dim).
I will post a pic but need 10 posts to do that so will post the components individually (sorry about that!)

Here goes:

Milesp99

Super competition sticker on top tube.
Reynolds 531 sticker on down tube diagonal.
Reynolds 531 on fork.
No chromed bits.

Milesp99

Super Champion competition rims (tubs)

Milesp99

Hubs Maillard 700

Milesp99

Drilled Spidel (?105)

juvela

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welcome to the forum

there is a spot on the right margin of your member page where you can create a photo album showing the bicycle

no minimum number of posts is required to do this

readers can visit the album and put the images into the discussion thread


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T-Mar

It's appears to be a PX10 variant from the very late 1970s to very early 1980s, though the complete lack of chrome on the frame is a bit puzzling. It could be repaint. The serial number will tell us the exact year, at which point we may be able to determine originality. Photo assist...

Milesp99

@juvela - thanks for the welcome - I've done as you suggested and created an album in my profile.

@T-Mar - thanks for your help with the photos

P.S I didn't reply sooner as reached the 5 post per day maximum!

Back to the bike the serial is 9092609 so ? 1979?

It has mafac levers.

Grateful if anyone can shed any light on it.

I was thinking the frame looks like a 1980 CFX 10 as unlike the PXN 10 and PY10 of 1980 the frame does not have the lower third of the rear stay chromed. Although still doesn't make sense that the forks aren't chrome? Sorry can't post a link as need >10 posts.

Cheers for any help!

T-Mar

The serial number indicates that the frame was manufactured during September 1979, That's in the gray region of the calendar year where it could be either a 1979 or 1980 model, though I'd be leaning towards the latter.

The amount of chrome can vary from market to market. I haven't seen a 1979 UK catalogue that shows the PX10 but the 1980 UK catalogue shows a chrome fork. Other 1979 catalogues that I've seen show varying amounts of chrome. Another possibility is a custom frame, whereby the customer could specify the amount the chrome. However, I also can't rule out a possible repaint. If you remove the fork, there may be some evidence of chrome on the steering tube. If so, that would point towards a repaint.

1simplexnut 

Hi looks like a nice machine .
HAs had some changes in its life .
Mafac levers with Weinmann calipers is not usual .
Also could can you load a pic of the decal on the headtube .
Is it the same as the one on the seat tube ?

Enjoy the ride

Just looking at https://www.peugeotshow.com/1980nl/1980nl_31.jpg

Model PVN10 shows MAFAC levers with weinmann 605 calipers !

Chrome for though .

All good fun !

Milesp99

Thanks 1simplexnut.
Only ridden it briefly but rides nicely. I agree the calipers don't fit from what I can see - simply can't find a description that is identical but I suppose that's to be expected after 40+years!
The detective work has been quite fun though!

Milesp99

I'll post a pic of the decal on the headtube when I get to 10 posts!

Trinidor

Bought this beauteous frame with everything, but wheels and derailleurs. Want to get it road worthy. I'm confounded by what kind of mount a rear derailleur would need. Shift levers are Simplex, so I would assume the bike had a Simplex rear, but I don't see the typical threaded hole on the rear dropout for mounting. Also, serial number on the rear dropout is 1296906. Nothing on the bottom bracket. Any guesses as to what model and year. All help appreciated

John E

1971 AO-8
Simplex rear derailleur hangs from a bolt-on "claw"
Same frame as UO-8 (basic plain gauge steel)
AO-8 had low flange, instead of high flange, hubs, wingnuts instead of quick release wheel mount system, and half, instead of full, handlebar tape

Trinidor

Great reply! Thanks so much! That explains a lot. Do you think I can make the rear dropout work with a similar derailleur and a QR hub?

rustystrings61 

Ah - no. Not an A-08, it's a PA-10, the racier version of the A-08. The giveaway is the Bocama Model 14 Type II lugs and the use of cable clips for the rear brake cable (replaced here with zip ties or similar). This would have come stock with tubulars and was a competitor with the Gitane Interclub, a junior racer that was a notch below Peugeot's PR-10 (532 main tubing, Stronglight 49 cotterless crank) and their PX-10 (full 531, Stronglight 93 crank). Decal scheme is 1970-74.

John E

You are right about the cable clips and the head lugs. PA-10 it is.
What threw me was the lack of a rear derailleur tab, which I have seen at least on later PA-10s. .

rustystrings61 

That's right! They DID come with Simplex dropouts with a derailleur tab later on! I had forgotten that!

juvela

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cycle certainly sending mixed messages betwixt the two models discussed

at first glance was thinking A08 with a lug substitution done to keep things moving within the context of "the boom"

then noticed the absence of double eyelets on the fork ends and absence of housing stops on the top tube

seat tube transfer would be correct for A08 but not for PA10

the mixed messages made me wonder if it might be a cycle produced for a market other than N. America...

Trinidor's member page says resident of US, which certainly does not rule out possibility of a foreign model

checked peugeotshow.com and found this NL market page for the PA10 of 1971



note that it is illustrated with half chrome blades, gear hanger & a seat tube transfer with a clear center section

the PA10 of this time was fitted with a Simplex Criterium gear ensemble while the shift levers on the subject cycle are Simplex Prestige

the only colour have ever seen for a U.S. market PA10 at this time is white with black trim

subject cycle is not only yellow but has no contrasting trim

perchance additional discussion may be in order...wonder if there is a possibility it could be a maple leaf model for example?

our Canada members may be able to share some valuable illumination here

clubman markk900 T-Mar

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Trinidor

Hey folks, thanks for all the great replies. I am building the bike up, and it appears to require some kind of cabling guide for the derailleurs, that would be attached to the downtube, near the bottom bracket. Could someone possibly send me a pic of the guide, and if anyone has a spare one, I'd gladly buy it. Maybe it's possible the bike doesn't use a guide, but I don't see how the derailleur cabling would work without one.
What about these
.https://www.ebay.com/itm/26589587680...gAAOSwdQJjKnbN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/17563053308...cAAOSwClZj~D9i
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165982800080?hash=item26a55888d0:gqgAAOSwTztkEUyq

John E

Probably something like this (Simplex unit would be preferred)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/19089851633...Bk9SR4biuJn7YQ

Simplex:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/16586567055...Bk9SR77VwZn7YQ

ehcoplex 

I can't tell for sure, but from the pictures it looks like maybe you actually don't need a clip-on DT cable guide. It looks to me like there are brazed on stops for housing on the down-tube down near the bottom bracket, and then one on the drive-side chain stay (well, actually two- one near the BB, and then the usual one near the dropout). If this is the case, you just need to run some short lengths of housing between those stops, or in the case of the front derailleur, from the stop on the DT to the stop that's part of the FD.

Trinidor

I was wondering about that possibility. Thanks for the suggestion. It would be great , if I could actually see a picture of that area on a bike of my model and vintage, which appears to be a 1971 PA 10. I'm going to check the bike again tomorrow to see if your idea is a possibility.

ehcoplex 

If you zoom in, you can kind of see the black housing for the RD cable running behind the crank/chainrings.

Trinidor

Yes, I can see what you mean. Is that your '72 PX 10?