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Old 07-10-22, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
Was the mixte a G Jubilee or a G Record?
Looked like a touring to me.
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Stem is actually a nitto!


Grand compe brakes

People actually did this years ago

Suits me better now but more changes to come.... Note the half step and granny on 144 campy!
It needs less chain but I'm not going to address that till I'm sure I'm done on the drive train.
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Super nice find! Other than tires, tubes, brake pads and perhaps the chain, a “fluff & buff” would you be all that I’d consider ..
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster View Post


Grand compe brakes
obviously the Gran Compe brakes aren't original, but they are good brakes and the black anodizing is a great touch!
What did it have originally?? My instinct says "Weinmann centerpulls", but MAFAC seems more likely.

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People actually did this years ago
I've got a tripod that I bought from a friend in the late 70's, and it has his SSN on it. That was what the experts advised in order to recover stolen goods.
Of course, my SSN was also used as my military ID when in the Marines, and even that Big Yellow Machine company here in Peoria liked to use it instead of a proper employee ID number. The invention of the internet changed things, of course.

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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
obviously the Gran Compe brakes aren't original, but they are good brakes and the black anodizing is a great touch!
What did it have originally?? My instinct says "Weinmann centerpulls", but MAFAC seems more likely.



I've got a tripod that I bought from a friend in the late 70's, and it has his SSN on it. That was what the experts advised in order to recover stolen goods.
Of course, my SSN was also used as my military ID when in the Marines, and even that Big Yellow Machine company here in Peoria liked to use it instead of a proper employee ID number. The invention of the internet changed things, of course.

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(and that Big Yellow Machine company is no longer headquartered in Peoria... or Illinois...)
I worked there for too many years.
And weinmann center pulls would have been stock.

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Originally Posted by 52telecaster View Post
Looked like a touring to me.
DOH!

Did it again, meant touring.
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
DOH!

Did it again, meant touring.
I think the big difference between the two is the fork. I have a gt mixte I want to build for my gf. It's actually a really nice frameset.

I had it set up like this at one time.
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Between the AD and the Grand Record, you've really been winning lately!
Congrats!
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Between the AD and the Grand Record, you've really been winning lately!
Congrats!
The AD is with gugie so I needed another waaay cool ride while he works on it. Gonna take a night ride on it tonight
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531 + 1st-Gen Cyclone... it's like I built it up myself! Nice score, mister.
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Official old man Russell rando build. 35s, half step and granny, barcons and 23"-93" gears and a front rack sturdy enough for an overnight camping trip.
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Well, right on, then! 👍 I like your lighting setup. That's a tricky chore, usually, to get them where the people behind you can actually see you, and you can actually see where you're going. 🤔😁
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster View Post
It's hard to see in the pick but the fork is 531 as well.
Most likely not a Reynolds steerer though. They "cheated", though the decal is the "full" 531 variant, they used a lesser steerer on mine, a black/red '74. I think it may have been a Nervor steerer (note, not Nervar, not Nervex, but Nervor). They were bulged in the middle — between the crown and the threads they were a larger OD. Just a little, you might not even notice, except when I tried to mill the crown race seat down to Campy size, the milling tool wouldn't fit over the steerer, so I had to hand-file the crown seat.

The steerer on mine was definitely strong enough, because I tested it! I rode it into a hole so large that I went over the bars and bent both fork blades, but the steerer didn't bend. TT and DT didn't kink either (that I could tell), just the blades bent. I scored a deal on a black Paramount fork with a Nervex Pro crown in chrome, that looked excellent on it though not the same as new obviously. And took a 7/8" stem quill and English thread headset. Rode that a couple more years before selling it. I wish I'd kept it! It took me across the continent with a full camping load in '76, fond memories.

Mark B

EDIT: Oops I see now your decal says 3 tubes 531, so a non-Reynolds steerer would not be cheating. My own GR had the "full 531" sticker.
Mine came with Universal 61 brakes. I know they were original because I was the person who took the bike out of the box that was stapled shut in France. We sold a lot of Motos, even a fair number of GRs. I think I opened a few GR boxes to pick my favorite when it was time to buy one for me. TA cranks on mine.

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One of the few paint schemes that absolutely needs a particular color of housing, dark red.
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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
Most likely not a Reynolds steerer though. They "cheated", though the decal is the "full" 531 variant, they used a lesser steerer on mine, a black/red '74. I think it may have been a Nervor steerer (note, not Nervar, not Nervex, but Nervor). They were bulged in the middle — between the crown and the threads they were a larger OD. Just a little, you might not even notice, except when I tried to mill the crown race seat down to Campy size, the milling tool wouldn't fit over the steerer, so I had to hand-file the crown seat.

The steerer on mine was definitely strong enough, because I tested it! I rode it into a hole so large that I went over the bars and bent both fork blades, but the steerer didn't bend. TT and DT didn't kink either (that I could tell), just the blades bent. I scored a deal on a black Paramount fork with a Nervex Pro crown in chrome, that looked excellent on it though not the same as new obviously. And took a 7/8" stem quill and English thread headset. Rode that a couple more years before selling it. I wish I'd kept it! It took me across the continent with a full camping load in '76, fond memories.

Mark B

EDIT: Oops I see now your decal says 3 tubes 531, so a non-Reynolds steerer would not be cheating. My own GR had the "full 531" sticker.
Mine came with Universal 61 brakes. I know they were original because I was the person who took the bike out of the box that was stapled shut in France. We sold a lot of Motos, even a fair number of GRs. I think I opened a few GR boxes to pick my favorite when it was time to buy one for me. TA cranks on mine.
I wonder if Reynolds made a metric gauge steerer tube - all of the Gitane TdFs I've had were fitted with Nervor steerers. For that matter, my Swiss Allegro, with thinner-walled metric 531, also has a Nervor steerer.
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Originally Posted by rustystrings61 View Post
I wonder if Reynolds made a metric gauge steerer tube - all of the Gitane TdFs I've had were fitted with Nervor steerers. For that matter, my Swiss Allegro, with thinner-walled metric 531, also has a Nervor steerer.
Yes they did, I've seen plenty of them. I have two or three metric 531 steerers in stock at the moment, but no crowns with a 25 mm hole in them! I'll probably use these steerers to graft onto forks with a too-short steerer. Since my steerer-stretcher is on the fritz.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster View Post

Official old man Russell rando build. 35s, half step and granny, barcons and 23"-93" gears and a front rack sturdy enough for an overnight camping trip.
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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
Most likely not a Reynolds steerer though. They "cheated", though the decal is the "full" 531 variant, they used a lesser steerer on mine, a black/red '74. I think it may have been a Nervor steerer (note, not Nervar, not Nervex, but Nervor). They were bulged in the middle — between the crown and the threads they were a larger OD. Just a little, you might not even notice, except when I tried to mill the crown race seat down to Campy size, the milling tool wouldn't fit over the steerer, so I had to hand-file the crown seat.

The steerer on mine was definitely strong enough, because I tested it! I rode it into a hole so large that I went over the bars and bent both fork blades, but the steerer didn't bend. TT and DT didn't kink either (that I could tell), just the blades bent. I scored a deal on a black Paramount fork with a Nervex Pro crown in chrome, that looked excellent on it though not the same as new obviously. And took a 7/8" stem quill and English thread headset. Rode that a couple more years before selling it. I wish I'd kept it! It took me across the continent with a full camping load in '76, fond memories.

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EDIT: Oops I see now your decal says 3 tubes 531, so a non-Reynolds steerer would not be cheating. My own GR had the "full 531" sticker.
Mine came with Universal 61 brakes. I know they were original because I was the person who took the bike out of the box that was stapled shut in France. We sold a lot of Motos, even a fair number of GRs. I think I opened a few GR boxes to pick my favorite when it was time to buy one for me. TA cranks on mine.
I'm thinking the stays are something lesser but it rides really well. Much quicker handling than my old grand touring and lighter. Honestly though pretty much every moto I've ridden was at least pleasant if not quite nice. I think this is a long term keeper. Also, try not to go over the bars. You can get hurt.
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I think the big difference between the two is the fork. I have a gt mixte I want to build for my gf. It's actually a really nice frameset.

I had it set up like this at one time.
I have a GJ mixte, quite a bit of difference between it and the Grand Touring. The GJ had a partially Reynolds 531 frame with beautiful nervex lugs. Not so with the GT. Also, the RD was the exotic long cage Huret Jubilee. There was no mixte Grand Record.
For the record, I have matching red/black men's and mixte GJs, four GRs and a 73 LeChampion.
Nice catch, BTW, How did I not see this? was it in the Peoria CL?

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Originally Posted by motogeek View Post
I have a GJ mixte, quite a bit of difference between it and the Grand Touring. The GJ had a partially Reynolds 531 frame with beautiful nervex lugs. Not so with the GT. Also, the RD was the exotic long cage Huret Jubilee. There was no mixte Grand Record.
For the record, I have matching red/black men's and mixte GJs, four GRs and a 73 LeChampion.
Nice catch, BTW, How did I not see this? was it in the Peoria CL?
It was on Facebook marketplace in Iowa. I sometimes troll areas I will be driving through.
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I have a GJ mixte, quite a bit of difference between it and the Grand Touring. The GJ had a partially Reynolds 531 frame with beautiful nervex lugs. Not so with the GT. Also, the RD was the exotic long cage Huret Jubilee. There was no mixte Grand Record.
For the record, I have matching red/black men's and mixte GJs, four GRs and a 73 LeChampion.
Nice catch, BTW, How did I not see this? was it in the Peoria CL?
Btw I wish I had a long cage jubilee but will have to go with suntour for now. They work pretty well
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Btw I wish I had a long cage jubilee but will have to go with suntour for now. They work pretty well



Next time you're in Morton you should stop by and see my Moto collection. I'm just three blocks off the Morton-EPeo trail.
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Next time you're in Morton you should stop by and see my Moto collection. I'm just three blocks off the Morton-EPeo trail.
Holy cow, I had no idea. Once in a great while I play music in Morton.
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Holy cow, I had no idea. Once in a great while I play music in Morton.

We may have discussed this before COVID. Did you play at Unum?
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We may have discussed this before COVID. Did you play at Unum?
I did at least 3 times.
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