Concorde project
 

Just got a deal on this
Really nice big guy, 6'7, sold it to me. He said it'd been repainted.
Race number hanger, pretty cool.

Would love any info or advice about it. I'd never heard of this brand before. I'm going to overhaul it and ride it myself hopefully.

The fork appears not to match, but that could have been the original colour? Or maybe it was crashed?
BB is 70mm. Seatpost is ~26.6, and overtightened.

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Rust issues:

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Some of the frames were made by Ciocc in Italy. It looks like your lugs are the same as those on a Ciocc so it may be one.

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That should sort out well. I'd check the seatpost size as you've spotted the one in there may be too small.
Mine was a 26.8 seatpost.

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Looks like this bike is now for sale on ebay.
Brent

Concorde was a brand owned by Veltec, a Dutch company. I repped for the US subsidiary, Veltec-Boyer out of Sand City, CA in the 80's. Jonathan Boyer was the Boyer in the name. I believe Ciocc made the frames, as [MENTION=376998]bluehills3149[/MENTION] noted earlier, as we distributed Ciocc during the same time period. Veltec was one of the sponsors of the PDM team. Pedro Delgado was one of the team riders for awhile.

It's a Dutch brand.
At the start Frames were made by Pelizzoli (Ciocc) and Billato. Later they were made in Belgium too.
The PDM cycling team with among others Sean Kelly, Pedro Delgado, Greg Lemond, Raoul Alcala, Gert-Jan Theunisse, Erik Breukink and Steven Rooks rode on Concorde.
The better ones are really nice!

Yep, he's had it listed awhile now at that price. I sorta regret selling it because I really liked how I had it set up and didn't put a single mile on it before deciding I needed to sell off a bunch to make room.

I always thought the CIÖCC connection was an assumption, what Concorde sellers use to upvaluse their bikes, since I read somewhere that the relation was never officially confirmed by Pelizzoli.
Most people advertise their Concordes based on an italian flag braze-on on the right side of the tubes as made by CIÖCC, while that is actially the sign for Billato, who also used to build for CIÖCC and pretty much for everybody else who matter and who didn't at the time. With yours its out of question based on the lugs and the missing flag braze-on. Really nice score! If you want to see other Concordes, check out "marktplaats.nl" without quotation marks for sure, and search for "Concorde" or "concorde fiets".
As said by the "local" fabiofarelli they have all levels of bikes including magic unicorns, what people see once and can never forget, but they never show up again.
If I had to make a wild guess, I would say Columbus SL (unlike the silver decal points to Cromor, and I think all other decals are the standard "Concorde" set from ebay for Aquila or Astore) with a non-original fork (not only paintjob is off, but they usually had the Concorde logo on the fork caps).

Heres a link, where someone sandblasted a similar one... maybe interesting for you for the fork.... note the decal difference as well....
Concorde - Ciöcc '80 ies project | DCI Steel Vintage Racing Bicycles (dcisite.be)

Best,

Lattz....

Thats a decent size frame !
You seem to snaffle all the biggies :)
Are front and rear dropouts both campagnolo ?
Love those colours

Fantastic info all thank you
I may chose to pretend it is a ciocc but only in my head

here's where I got to:
No drama sofar
Still wondering why they put a hole in the bottom bracket shell. Is it really to show off a cool spindle?

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Haha yeah I rode too small frames for a long time now i'm trying to see what too big is like.
It's 62 ST x 60 TT. They're not squished but there's zero ball clearance for me at 6'2. I think it should be good.
The front fork is suspiciously not rusty. Magnet doesn't stick. It's aluminium...

Very scronchy Mavic headset. I carried on the proud tradition of mangling the tiny flats on the locknut. Couldn't move it. Turns out this plastic cover (which snapped) was hiding the locking mechanism. The top bit is just for setting the preload and it's all one piece. I think. Kinda neat.

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That thing is stunning

Ah ok probably a replacement . Looks like a kinetic alloy one I have in the spares bin .
Let me know what length that steerer is .
I may have a steel fork with campy ends that will work . :)

At least your bolt looks good. Mine was seized and all mangled, had my favorite LBS sort it out before I built up the bike. Keep the pics coming!

The number hanger would make it an Aquila or a possibly a Squadra. There were numerous builders and versions of both. Some with upper level Columbus tubing, and I've seen a few with 531. There seems to be very little consistency in their models. I had a friend with a Columbus Max Concorde that was one of the most beautiful bikes I've ever seen.

Mavic Technical Manual with instructions for loosening the locking system on these headsets, refer page three...

www.cadre.org/bike_stuff/Mavic/Manuals/89-90/

If the link doesn't work try tearsforgears.com and a search for "mavic" then scroll to Mavic Tech Manuals

Thanks but it works how I guessed. I got it out.

I can see what the guy who put this on was thinking. The metallic purple is pretty nice and it does sort of match the frame. It's light too (620 grams).
But a chromed fork would look much better and this one is probably pretty harsh to ride.

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That would be amazing. I'd give you some money for it.
I'm gonna try to find one locally first to save you the trouble posting though.

The steerer is 237 mm. Slightly longer would be nice to run a few spacers in the headset stack and get higher bars.

What are these little pegs in the tubes?
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Rust inspection/removal with a wire tooth brush and a razorblade.
Rags stuffed in there to avoid getting flakes in the frame.
It's not as bad as I thought. I was thinking i'd be grinding the cable guides off but they're probably ok.

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First example i have seen with the "pintail" lugs and CIOCC piercings in the lower headlug and BB shell, so I'm a believer now that the Pelizzoli shop made THIS one, or at least the Bonati shop did using old stock lugs and shell.
But I dispute whether Billato was the shop that built the later Concordes: might have happened but I think more likely this gets repeated cause someone once confused one "B" shop (Bonati) with another (Billato). It was Bonati that bought the CIOCC brandname as well as "John" brands from Pelizzoli and also made the Conti brand. I think they built some Battaglin as well as some Guerciotti frames, too.

that brand was Kinesis, who made a lot of ALU alloy forks that appeared on several brands. I was never a fan...