Just pedals
#1
Just pedals
Viva la France! I picked these up out of the box of France at the local. Alloy Lyotard unscathed.


I have so many pedals. These are just the most recent. They maybe French but they are going on an Italian build. I cannot wait to get these cleaned up and installed.
What are your pedals of choice today?


I have so many pedals. These are just the most recent. They maybe French but they are going on an Italian build. I cannot wait to get these cleaned up and installed.
What are your pedals of choice today?
#2

Not sure if I could consider the Maillard/Spidel CXC 700 pedals (Maillard's contribution to the aero movement before clipless pedals took over.) as my favorite, but I do have them on pretty much all of my French 80's bikes......
Last edited by Chombi1; 10-26-22 at 01:53 PM.
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in addition to the 460D there is also the 460A (acier: steel)
early 460's have the letters P and L in the plates
there are two lengths for the threaded portion of the spindles
older ones are shorter for it was assumed they would be going into steel cranks
later ones have longer threaded portion as to fit alloy crankarms
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in addition to the 460D there is also the 460A (acier: steel)
early 460's have the letters P and L in the plates
there are two lengths for the threaded portion of the spindles
older ones are shorter for it was assumed they would be going into steel cranks
later ones have longer threaded portion as to fit alloy crankarms
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These look (or sound) like they could've gone on your Italian build. 😉 I still need to research them, no idea who made them, but they're extremely smooth rolling. Found on the side of the Burke-Gilman trail, up in Seattle, awhile back, on a mostly stripped bicycle carcass. 😎

EDIT: It looks like venzo has two meanings, either of which fits. It can mean a big cat, like a jaguar or cougar, which fits their company logo, or it can mean to win or conquer. I choose the cougar, I think. I'm no racer, but might want to stay on a cougar's good side. 🤔😉

EDIT: It looks like venzo has two meanings, either of which fits. It can mean a big cat, like a jaguar or cougar, which fits their company logo, or it can mean to win or conquer. I choose the cougar, I think. I'm no racer, but might want to stay on a cougar's good side. 🤔😉
Last edited by stardognine; 10-26-22 at 02:59 PM.
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These MKS Unique pedals from a recent $85 Campania donor have all-aluminum cages and are threaded for toe-clips.

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Just realized that two of my bikes with Japanese pedals have steel cages, so I'll use these on one of those.
Also just realized that KKT Top Run was offered with both steel and aluminum cages.

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Just realized that two of my bikes with Japanese pedals have steel cages, so I'll use these on one of those.
Also just realized that KKT Top Run was offered with both steel and aluminum cages.
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These MKS Unique pedals from a recent $85 Campania donor have all-aluminum cages and are threaded for toe-clips.

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Just realized that two of my bikes with Japanese pedals have steel cages, so I'll use these on one of those.
Also just realized that KKT Top Run was offered with both steel and aluminum cages.

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Just realized that two of my bikes with Japanese pedals have steel cages, so I'll use these on one of those.
Also just realized that KKT Top Run was offered with both steel and aluminum cages.
The toe clip strap slots are just too narrow for them to go through. I ended up shredding up badly a couple of strap sets when I tried to do so.
I suspect that their pedals had always had this problem. I wonder why they don't bother fixing it.
Last edited by Chombi1; 10-26-22 at 02:05 PM.
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The MKS quills are great, well made and good looking, except for when you want to install toe clip straps on them that are on the thick side or laminated.
The toe clip strap slots are just too narrow for them to go through. I ended up shredding up badly a couple of strap sets when I tried to do so.
I suspect that their pedals had always had this problem. I wonder why they don't bother fixing it.
The toe clip strap slots are just too narrow for them to go through. I ended up shredding up badly a couple of strap sets when I tried to do so.
I suspect that their pedals had always had this problem. I wonder why they don't bother fixing it.
I have also prepped a few with file, Dremel, etc.
MKS, one of the best, toughest, great looking values in all of cycling for over 80 years.
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Bikes: 1982 Holdsworth Avanti (531), 1961 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1953 Holdsworth Whirlwind
My bike came with the original Lyotard 45CA pedals (40 years old).
Since my previous bike was the same model new in 1983 they are the only pedals I've used in almost 40 years
They work fine and I really like how they look - slightly better than the MKS ones in my opinion.
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...c7370&Enum=109
A really fine web site is "Speedplay Pedal and Parts Museum" which was online earlier this year but I can't find it at the moment.
Edit: Found it again on flickr
Main page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedplaypedals/albums
Pedals: https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedp...57625683326281
Since my previous bike was the same model new in 1983 they are the only pedals I've used in almost 40 years

They work fine and I really like how they look - slightly better than the MKS ones in my opinion.
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...c7370&Enum=109
A really fine web site is "Speedplay Pedal and Parts Museum" which was online earlier this year but I can't find it at the moment.
Edit: Found it again on flickr
Main page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedplaypedals/albums
Pedals: https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedp...57625683326281
Last edited by Aardwolf; 10-26-22 at 03:29 PM. Reason: Update
#9
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Mostly because of my size 15 gunboats, Specialized touring pedals are the most comfortable for clip&strap.
I have XT spd pedals on a few bikes, and they're my preference.
These Suntour Superbe pedals are the nicest ones in my possession.
I have XT spd pedals on a few bikes, and they're my preference.
These Suntour Superbe pedals are the nicest ones in my possession.
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I'm all-in on clipless, so Shimano PD-A520. Rugged, pretty easy to service, can be often found for very little $, and IMO look 'right-ish' enough on a vintage bike.
#12
These MKS Unique pedals from a recent $85 Campania donor have all-aluminum cages and are threaded for toe-clips.

.
Just realized that two of my bikes with Japanese pedals have steel cages, so I'll use these on one of those.
Also just realized that KKT Top Run was offered with both steel and aluminum cages.

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Just realized that two of my bikes with Japanese pedals have steel cages, so I'll use these on one of those.
Also just realized that KKT Top Run was offered with both steel and aluminum cages.
the upper member of the pair exhibits the OEM dustcap for this model
the knurling on the edge of the dustcap of the lower member indicates a replace-a-mente
these were also produced with steel cages - have a set of those from ~MCMLXX
very fine stuff!
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#14
I recently overhauled my Campagnolo Superleggeri TI pedals and had to struggle getting those 1/8" balls to stay in place when I was reassembling the pedals. I'm wondering if the smaller balls mean they will wear or break down sooner than if they used bigger bearings. I suspsct thst the balls had to be smaller because the TI spindles might be bigger in diameter at the races to make them stronger?
Last edited by Chombi1; 10-26-22 at 08:48 PM.
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Yea , I'm sure the smaller ball bearings are a result of wanting to beef up the spindle diameter . I know the pedals got a bad reputation for breaking but I have three sets and been riding with them for six years or so up steep climbs and all over . I sure don't have the strength to break them. As far as assembly a BF member came up with a nice idea on a wooden block with a hole for the threaded end and supports to hold the pedal centered and vertical while you install the outer bearings. I plan to build one out of remnant 2 x 4 's I have out by my saw. I sounds pretty neat and he claims it works very well.
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As much as I like C&V, once I dried clipless (SPD-sl) I was sold. I keep some of the older one around and mounted on bikes. Buit when I go for a serious ride, they get switched.
Instead of presenting the pedals, here is a link. All the older non-KEO pedals and only the Shimano 600 types in the album are available for sale. I just haven't taken the time to post them up. If interested in any, let me know.
Pedals | Flickr
Instead of presenting the pedals, here is a link. All the older non-KEO pedals and only the Shimano 600 types in the album are available for sale. I just haven't taken the time to post them up. If interested in any, let me know.
Pedals | Flickr
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I think the nicest pedals I have are the White Industries pedals.
WIPedals2 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
WIPedals4 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
WIPedals5 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
With the King Cage clips and Brooks straps.
It looks like the pedals, clips and straps are all discontinued now...
WIPedals2 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
WIPedals4 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
WIPedals5 by Dave The Golden Boy, on FlickrWith the King Cage clips and Brooks straps.
It looks like the pedals, clips and straps are all discontinued now...
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
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Wow, those are nice! Sorta modernized Berthets. I think MKS offer a similar kind of cage...
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And my favorite pedals, the SR SP-11
SP-11 King2 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
SP-11 King1 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
SP-11 King2 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
SP-11 King1 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
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Yes, MKS makes the Urban Platform and the wire cages- very similar pedals and cages- in a way the clips are better than the King ones because they have a little "side to side" adjustability, but the King ones feel a little nicer- if that makes any sense.
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
#21
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The Golden Boy
Thank you for posting the White Industries pedals.
Very fine pictures.

what is the bearing arrangement here?
are pedals user serviceable?
Thank you!
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The Golden Boy
Thank you for posting the White Industries pedals.
Very fine pictures.

what is the bearing arrangement here?
are pedals user serviceable?
Thank you!
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#22
Here is the pull apart, with very fine results. The cap sides still had lube, the crank sides where totally dry. No rust, no wear was apparent on the other, very minor wear on the spindles.







Viva la France!
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And my favorite pedals, the SR SP-11
SP-11 King2 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
SP-11 King1 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
SP-11 King2 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
SP-11 King1 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
#25
I have a few sets of Suntour, Cyclone 7000, Is probably the cleanest. I have Superbe but they are later additions, in black, strictly user condition.







