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Old 12-08-22, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
As a meeting of vintage and modern, I bring to you a bike I never knew about: the Merz Edition Specialized Sequoia.
That frameset looks like a skinny hipster who went to the gym and managed to bulk up nothing else other than their deltoids

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Originally Posted by cudak888
That frameset looks like a skinny hipster who went to the gym and managed to bulk up nothing else other than their deltoids

-Kurt
I thought it was an homage to Frank Lenz's bike:


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Originally Posted by nlerner
I thought it was an homage to Frank Lenz's bike:
No, this is:




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Originally Posted by nlerner
—BFers expressing excessive opinions are usually awful.
It's awful that people express too many opinions? Is that even possible?

Or do you mean something other than "excessive?"
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Originally Posted by smd4
It's awful that people express too many opinions? Is that even possible?

Or do you mean something other than "excessive?"
A single opinion can be excessive, in my view.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
—Excessive paragraph breaks
I think I am

guilty of that.

I just figured it

would be easier to read

than just one long paragraph.

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Fact: There is something in between obscure, vague word usage and disjointed sentence style that never has the intended effect, and a 6th grade reading level.

Opinion: Nobody wants to read the huge, stream of thought, rambling "paragraph" that can accurately be described as a word salad. Line after line of incoherent, poorly punctuated text is 100% terrible.
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Guilty! I have tried to refrain for using the same pictures. In fact, I took the De Rosa to the back yard to try to get some good ones. Didn't work. Garage doors are much easier.
The Colnago rarely ever gets repeat pictures anymore. I took one that I think is the best for me and am satisfied.
Newbies are showing up that haven't seen pics from 2 or more years ago. I figure a couple of old timers would be tolerant of some level or repeats.

So what I am interpreting from the OP is if I do a build thread and end it with a complete bike, No more usage of the pics. I dont' think I can comply.

When cruising through the BF list, I filter out those of no interest. Consequently, I probably miss good info and pics that I might enjoy but never see if the rule was followed. I have gone back just to see if that assumption is true, it is.

Having said all that, I think for those of us older ones who have some growing memory issues, seeing the same pic is not a bad thing, as long as repeats are in moderation.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
A single opinion can be excessive, in my view.
In your view, how is something like that even possible? Can an "excessive opinion" be defined? Or do you mean you don't like "strong" opinions?
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All opinions I read are expressive.
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Lemme guess, retired teacher or engineer?
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
Lemme guess, retired teacher or engineer?
Nope. Truthfully, just trolling this statement which I find excessive. I guess it proves the OP's point.

BFers expressing excessive opinions are usually awful.
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Originally Posted by seypat
Nope. Truthfully, just trolling this statement which I find excessive. I guess it proves the OP's point.
I was referring to the OP.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
That frameset looks like a skinny hipster who went to the gym and managed to bulk up nothing else other than their deltoids

-Kurt
Such is the plight of any steel gravel or "adventure" bike with the de rigueur high (tire) capacity carbon fork. The tubing diameter gets progressively smaller as one looks rearward. The tapered headtube does a lot to calm the "This looks like sewer pipes connecting to a main" observations. Fillet brazing would help further, IMO. Aluminum is better for this sort of thing, as we know, since aluminum needs to be larger in diameter (for all the reasons it does) and thus much of the tubing matches or is close to diameter and/or silhouette to the head tube and carbon fork. Visual consistency is key, which is why traditional lugged steel so easily looks handsome. The imbalanced look of a steel frame like this could be easily remedied by simple having a fully sloping crowned steel fork with OS tubing (a la Soma). This still allows considerable tire clearance and the use of disc brakes, but doesn't look awkward. Naturally, it'd just be a Soma and not a Specialized. Oh well!
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
I was referring to the OP.
His handle is nlerner. Maybe he/she's trying to "school" the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
Juvela and T-Mar are approximately as accurate as the atomic clock.
I'd include Maurice Moss in there too.
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Originally Posted by cudak888

It's a good thing the emoticons still work around here.

-Kurt
And I'm aware that I over-use/abuse the emoticons (which are actually smileys), but they've been very helpful in the past. Especially for readers with NO sense of humor. 😉

And I'll probably keep right on abusing them, even though I should know better. 😋😁😉
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Originally Posted by stardognine
And I'm aware that I over-use/abuse the emoticons (which are actually smileys), but they've been very helpful in the past. Especially for readers with NO sense of humor. 😉

And I'll probably keep right on abusing them, even though I should know better. 😋😁😉




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Oh great. Another airing of grievances thread. ........
Festivus is not till December 23.
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I once used a generic bolt to install a front derailleur.



Oh...not those kinds of C&V secrets.
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Too old and bad eyes to use emoticons.

I just do this:


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If I use a “ vocabulary list word” I usually try to define it at the same time. I understand that may make me appear condescending…..That means I talk down to people….
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Originally Posted by nlerner
—We notice when you post the same pics over and over and over. Please stop.
Unless it's a really nice picture of a really nice bike, such as this one. I think this is actually one of the best-looking bikes to ever have graced the pages of BF C&V:

Originally Posted by cudak888
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Guilty on all charges. Sorry...can't help myself.
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